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First post, by oh2ftu

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Hi,
I received a Chaintech CT-7NJL4 for initially free. State, broken.
Without powering it on, there is a 2 and respectively 4 Ohm short to ground on both +3,3V and +5V lines.
There's also a 6 Ohm short between these lines (2+4=6)
This seems way too low. Too bad I don't have a thermal camera.
Does anyone have a pinout for the chipsets so I could check whether they use what voltages?

These *seem* shorted at the same point to ground. Maybe an IC? or two fets (one on each line)? Hope not the chipset..

Any ideas?

Best regards,
Martin

Reply 1 of 10, by Karbist

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Only southbridge chipset is connected directly to the main 3.3v and 5v rails.
measure the resistance between standby 3.3v to the ground on pin no. 14 of any pci slot:

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Reply 2 of 10, by oh2ftu

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Wait, ain't those pins A1 (test reset) and A14, reserved?
Still, 280-ish Ohms
There are still a few that are connected to both rails;
- Southbridge
- BIOS-rom(?)
surely something else too. Too bad I haven't found any schematics for the chaintech board 🙁

Reply 5 of 10, by oh2ftu

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I received the thermal camera today.
The ITE IT8702F-A was shorted to 5V and the southbridge (Nforce 2 MCP FB6269.1) is shorted to the 3,3V rail.
So that's that then. 400e for a thermal camera to tell me that a 20e board is practically unrepairable 😀

Reply 6 of 10, by kingcake

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oh2ftu wrote on 2024-03-27, 14:28:

I received the thermal camera today.
The ITE IT8702F-A was shorted to 5V and the southbridge (Nforce 2 MCP FB6269.1) is shorted to the 3,3V rail.
So that's that then. 400e for a thermal camera to tell me that a 20e board is practically unrepairable 😀

You already spent 400, buy some chipquick and a microscope and fix that board! 🤣

Reply 7 of 10, by PcBytes

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Uhm... he might be slightly right on unrepairable. The few cases I've had ITE/Winbond chips burnt, when replaced they'd burn again. So my guess is either NB or SB gone that's subsequently causing the SIO chips to burn as well.

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Reply 8 of 10, by oh2ftu

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Yeah. The SB is shorted, and they seem quite hard to find. The SIO seems quite available, but not worth the effort without the SB. Changing a BGA is nothing new to me though.

Reply 9 of 10, by oh2ftu

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Ok so just to verify; pulled the SB off -> the last shorts are gone.
They are available on aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006379447748.html
And the ITE is available on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400080140446
I presume the ITE is not pin-compatible with a Winbond equivalent.
Still, those add up to 40-50e incl. taxes so I don't see any point in spending that kind of money on a Socket A -motherboard.

Reply 10 of 10, by PcBytes

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Even then it's not worth fixing - there's more sweet boards to fix that may be out there:
- MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR
-ASUS A7N8X (though beware as the Deluxe has been nothing but pain for me. The -X version is sweet to work with.)
- Soltek 75FRN2-RL
- ABIT NF7
- Gigabyte 7N400 Pro2

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