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Reply 20 of 34, by ultra_code

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inondesia wrote on 2020-12-08, 08:11:
yo man you still alive n kickin! thanks for replying. […]
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yo man you still alive n kickin! thanks for replying.

i already install nusb package but it didnt work. only one driver missing. its the PCI COMMUNICATION DEVICE driver. i try looking for it in the internet right now. do you know anything about it?

*i'll burn installation cd as a last resort. already downloaded the iso from winworld.

btw my rig is my brother old pentium 2 rig with no internet card and a broken old mouse. so CD drive is the only gateway in. i bought this cheap unknown brand pci usb card to make things happen. its turn out, nothing happened. yet. 😁

Did you not install the latest Intel chipset drivers as soon as you as you got to the desktop? Also, what chip is on that PCI USB card? NEC, VIA?

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Reply 21 of 34, by inondesia

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Did you not install the latest Intel chipset drivers as soon as you as you got to the desktop? Also, what chip is on that PCI USB card? NEC, VIA?
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hola man, thanks for replying again. intel chipset driver? i have not. thanks for the advice.

its NEC chip. i have photos of them.

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btw, the usb somehow has worked. it read flash drive, no problem. and usb mouse, with a help from installing driver from REMOVED win98se cd (which i copied them to a flash drive).

and bcoz of that, here's my brother pc spec by cpu - z :
l o l its a long copy paste, so i attach a txt file instead

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thanks man. next i planned to get all the driver as you suggested.

but for now, i wanna ask you more,
1. from my txt file spec, i'm not sure, is it usb 1.1 or 2.0 that i have in my system?
2. it connect to usb flash drive no problem. but when i connect it to smartphone cable data, it can't do data transfer. only charging.
3. this is the most important, can you play mp4 video file on this system??? i have tried MPlayer Ringo, haihasoft universal player, k-lite won't install, haven't try vlc tho. does a pentium 2 win98se pc capable playing mp4 video file?

i'm trying hard to find reference on google. but if you do know, please answer hehe thanks.

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Reply 22 of 34, by ultra_code

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inondesia wrote on 2020-12-19, 07:41:

1. from my txt file spec, i'm not sure, is it usb 1.1 or 2.0 that i have in my system?

If we are talking about Slot 1, the motherboard will have USB 1 ports, but that NEC card is USB 2.

inondesia wrote on 2020-12-19, 07:41:

2. it connect to usb flash drive no problem. but when i connect it to smartphone cable data, it can't do data transfer. only charging.

First, if you are on Android (I don't know about Apple), you need to enable Developer Mode, and then enable USB Debugging. Then you plug in your phone, select "file transfer" from the notification's menu, and then Windows will see your phone and any expandable storage for you to access.
Second of all, this only works on Vista and newer. Just tested this under XP and Vista. Didn't work on the former, worked on the later, although apparently Vista is still missing drivers, so be warned.

inondesia wrote on 2020-12-19, 07:41:

3. this is the most important, can you play mp4 video file on this system??? i have tried MPlayer Ringo, haihasoft universal player, k-lite won't install, haven't try vlc tho. does a pentium 2 win98se pc capable playing mp4 video file?

Tested an MP4 under 98SE with WMP9. Doesn't recognize it. You can try VLC, if there's a version for 9x.

I like helping people, but I think it's best if you have any other questions either DM me or start a new thread. Thanks.

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Reply 23 of 34, by inondesia

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yes i think my motherboard only support usb 1.1.

i already tried usb debugging and it didn't worked.

vlc 08.2 is just like the already installed winamp on the pc, only sounds/audio comes out. no video.

okay man thanks alot. if i have any other questions or update, i'll be dm you or start a new thread. cheers.

Reply 24 of 34, by guest_2

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Thanks. I've also downloaded nusb36e.exe in preparation for using a 'Belkin 5 Port USB 2.0 PCI Card 4 Int / 1 Ext Ports' on my Win98SE machine

Update - I got the NEC card 'Belkin 5 Port USB 2.0 PCI Card' installed and working great in Windows 98 SE. However it causes issues when booting into pure DOS and stop anything launching. I just get a black flashing cursor and nothing else.
Removing the card resolves the problem. There are no IRQ conflicts but the card is not working right with something in DOS. Windows 98 SE, all good for me and transfer speed of a 700MB ISO is down from about 12 minutes to less than a minute

Reply 25 of 34, by geiger9

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Thank you for this. Your guide worked great!

Reply 26 of 34, by zapbuzz

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I am waiting for my Caboose shaped NEC USB2 card thing from eBay its about the only USB2 card left so thanks for this.
The dark circuit board is not common so it should be interesting.

Reply 27 of 34, by crazii

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I recently get a NEC USB 2.0 PCI adapter , and installed the driver successfully. The device manager shows “NEC uPD720010 USB 2.0 enhanced host controller“ and a “ USB 2.0 Root hub“, but the copy speed is still around 2MB/s via a 2.0 disk, don't know why.🤣

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Reply 28 of 34, by TechieDude

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crazii wrote on 2021-12-10, 22:09:

I recently get a NEC USB 2.0 PCI adapter , and installed the driver successfully. The device manager shows “NEC uPD720010 USB 2.0 enhanced host controller“ and a “ USB 2.0 Root hub“, but the copy speed is still around 2MB/s via a 2.0 disk, don't know why.🤣

Hmm, Kingston? Those things tend to have atrocious write speeds for some reason. Just out of curiosity, what system do you have?

Reply 29 of 34, by crazii

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TechieDude wrote on 2021-12-15, 00:02:
crazii wrote on 2021-12-10, 22:09:

I recently get a NEC USB 2.0 PCI adapter , and installed the driver successfully. The device manager shows “NEC uPD720010 USB 2.0 enhanced host controller“ and a “ USB 2.0 Root hub“, but the copy speed is still around 2MB/s via a 2.0 disk, don't know why.🤣

Hmm, Kingston? Those things tend to have atrocious write speeds for some reason. Just out of curiosity, what system do you have?

Not Kingston, some cheapass brand that don't have a vendor and device id in the device manager. But I've tested it with a cardbus adapter on a laptop and the speed is ok. My rig is a 815EP mobo with tualatin, and 2MB/s is read speed 🤣.

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Reply 30 of 34, by Kaisersoze

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So far i could install without issues the NEC 2.0 usb controller on win98 following the first post guide. BUT apparently.
Indeed, when i try to plug an usb 2.0 external hdd ( a seagate usb 2.0 1 tb, perfectly working on other machines ), it goes on but in windows explorer i can't get any drive access ( nor an icon witnessing his presence ), and this weird matter in confirmed by the fact that my external storage doesn't get any drive letter even when i select it for unplugging on the safe removal tool window.

Edit: what a dumb...i forgot that my seagate was formatted in NTFS way, and probably thus with the 1 tb size could be the reasons for what is happened.
Let's go checking with a 120gb exFAT formatted, not self-powered...

Edit 2.0: got the card working, i can read from any fat32 formatted storage ( penstick, external Hds ), but every time i try to use a file ( mounting images, opening installer files, ec... ) i got a blast of error messages and bsod.
I'm thinking of giving up about these devices...

Reply 31 of 34, by kikendo

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I see a lot of NEC D720101GJ chips and rarely any NEC 720101F1 chips as shown in Phil's video, are they similar enough that these drivers will work?

Reply 32 of 34, by Bedfford

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kikendo wrote on 2024-05-29, 20:35:

I see a lot of NEC D720101GJ chips and rarely any NEC 720101F1 chips as shown in Phil's video, are they similar enough that these drivers will work?

I tested the VIA 6212 and NEC 720101 USB2.0 PCI cards on my APTIVA 2137 E26 + Win98 with no luck. The driver pack 3.6 make no difference.

With the VIA install the drivers fine, but at next reboot Win98 freeze at the login screen.

With the NEC the Win98 get freeze immediately at the "Add new hardware wizard".

Now testing a fresh install with NUSB20DRV.EXE.

Reply 33 of 34, by kikendo

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Bedfford wrote on 2024-07-18, 21:35:

I tested the VIA 6212 and NEC 720101 USB2.0 PCI cards on my APTIVA 2137 E26 + Win98 with no luck. The driver pack 3.6 make no difference.

Which revision of the 720101 did you try? as you can see from my post there's a ton of versions.

Reply 34 of 34, by ShirBlackspots

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holaplaneta wrote on 2020-04-18, 01:14:
Thanks for this, it guided me to get a SYBA SD-V2-5V USB 2.0 PCI card working on my ASUS P5A-B motherboard. […]
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Thanks for this, it guided me to get a SYBA SD-V2-5V USB 2.0 PCI card working on my ASUS P5A-B motherboard.

I found a very useful post in other forum by user Springbok and it gave some clues but I ran into some other issues. Sorry if this is a long post but it might help someone in the future.

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[SOLVED] - Issue with PCI USB 2.0 card in Asus P5A-B Mobo
So after doing a lot of searching, and buy 4 PCI USB 2.0 cards, I finally found the solution to the issues I was seeing.

There were 2 issues observed:

1) After installing the PCI card, the PC would boot, but the monitor would remain in power save/sleep mode, and would not turn on.
2) After installing the PCI card, the PC would boot, but the PCI card would not register with the bios, and windows XP would crash

I search long and hard to find the solution on the good 'ole inter-web. Alas, all I found were posted from eons ago up till 2012 asking if anyone had a solution. None of the posts actually provided a solution. I have titled this post to indicated that the issue has been solved, so that anyone who does a similar search in the future will find the solution.

So how did I find a solution? Well, after trying to search the web and coming up empty, I did a search for "PCI Compatible USB Card Asus P5A-b". Looking through all the results I stumbled upon this link

http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/P5AB/

In this link, it listed an NEC PCI ID (103300e0) for a compatible USB 2.0 card.

I then did a seach for "NEC PCI ID"

That led me to this link

http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=284

From that link I found the the data for ID 0x00e0

This revealed the following info

Chip Number: uPD720100A uPD720102GC
Chip Description: USB 2.0 Host Controller

I then did a search for NEC

I then did a search on ebay for "NEC USB 720100"

This led to the discovery of the SYBA USB 2.0 Card, with the model number SD-V2-5U

Searching for this card, I found some conflicting info regarding the chip set number. As mentioned, I had bought multiple USB cards with different chips. One of them was an NEC with a 720101 chipset. That particular one was the one that did not register, and crashed windows XP.

I then went to Syba.com to get the specs of the card

http://www.sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=475

This confirmed that the SD-V2-5U model did indeed have the chipset I needed.

The cheapest eBay price for this was about $16. I checked newegg, but they did not have it.

I found this one on pcoutlet.com for under $13 shipped.

http://www.outletpc.com/c5531.html

Got it today. I was very concerned. The chipset said 720010. However, when I installed it, the bios registered all ports. I booted up XP, and XP found the card. I tested my USB mouse in all ports, and all of them worked.

So that is the story. I hope this thread saves someone the hassle I had.

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So in my case, first I got a Rosewill RC-101 card. It looks very similar to the SYBA, and you would think that since it comes with a NEC chipset that it would work the same. Mine came with the one marked D720101.

After two days of trying everything my pc NEVER detected it.

However I found this post by user Springbok and got the SYBA SD-V2-5V from eBay. From the pictures of the auction I made sure it came with a NEC D720100 chipset.

When I finally installed it in my Win98SE PC, it was correctly recognized, but the "Nec USB Open Host Controller" in device manager had a yellow warning mark and every time I inserted a USB thumb drive in any port, the machine would freeze.

For three days I changed the ports, tried pretty much everything and installed all the drivers I could find:
ALi Integrated Driver 2.13 WHQL
nusb24e.exe
nusb33e.exe
nusb36e.exe
U2v2_1.exe
uPD720100 - USB 2.0 Driver for NEC uPD720100 chipset For Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP - Ver 2.4.1
uPD720101 - USB 2.0 Drivers for NEC uPD720101 chipset For Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP - Ver 2.4.1
uPD720102 - USB 2.0 Drivers for NEC uPD720102 chipset For Windows 98, 98SE, ME

And still the "Nec USB Open Host Controller" would not get rid of the yellow warning mark. I got several BSOD in the process of trying to update the drivers and used SAFE MODE a lot, enabled and disabled PNP thru OS in the BIOS, played with the IRQ channels, disabled other resources in device manager... nothing.

Until today that I removed the card, inserted the brand new Rosewill RC-101 one again, just to see if with all those previously installed drivers maybe it would be recognized by Windows. Windows 98 SE still did not detect it so I took it out and put in the SYBA again...

Windows recognized it perfectly and it has been working since with no issues. Device manager shows everything working all right.

So I hope this long story helps somebody like the one from user Springbok did for me. This post here at VOGONS and his really gave me the guidance to go and look for a card with this particular chipset for the ASUS P5A-B mobo.

So, I bought a NEC based chipset from eBay, it was a D720101GJ chip. No matter what I would do, Windows 98SE wouldn't start the device, so on seeing this post, I decided to buy the Syba NEC based USB card off eBay. It has the D720100 chip, which you've had success in getting to work.