Trading is frowned on in this forum:

VOGONS is no marketplace!

I see you asked before and got similar advice...

Re: Best way to unload some retro hardware, and what I got for sale.

Ohh yeh.. kinda forgot. I'm in the midst of another dumping spree and got carried away.

register on Amibay.com and list your things at the "recycle bin" (free to other members) , maybe someone close enough will come and take the whole lot

I've never even heard of the recycle bin there, where do I find it?

also craigslist and freecycle.org would be great to post them on.

I have posted so much free stuff on craigslist and someone was ALWAYS interested in it within a few days.

might want to check out this forum at vintage-computer.com. They also have a marketplace for auctions.

DonutKing wrote:

I've never even heard of the recycle bin there, where do I find it?

you need to request access to it, I'll see to it

Also ASSEMbler has a section for that, and I think if I knew about the Atari stuff before hand. I would have pointed you in that direction without a doubt. Cause they love consoles there 😀

I wished there was a marketplace thread of some sort on here. I know me and some others with tons o' stuff that a few of the other enthusiasts would love to have/trade.

Some of us peruse amibay or vintage computer forums' for sale section so I suggest posting your trade items there 😀 The admins here have already decided there is to be no trading on the boards here, there's a sticky topic to this effect somewhere.

7cjbill2 wrote:

I wished there was a marketplace thread of some sort on here. I know me and some others with tons o' stuff that a few of the other enthusiasts would love to have/trade.

The problem with doing that is inevitably a trade goes bad and people start flinging accusations about and those accusations could have legal repercussions not only for the person making them, but also for the owners of these forums for allowing them to be posted in the first place.

Firstly, I understand that, but honestly, I am a member of 10+ bulletin boards (Turbo Ford, Subaru Legacy, OS2 World, etc.). ALL of them have a marketplace section, and I don't recall ANY of them every having "legal issues" because someone got con'ed. Yes, there have been issues of that nature, but the offender is usually banned or he injures his reputation so badly he can no longer do business.

Secondly, I think most people understand there is a certain amount of risk involved doing on-line transactions. You don't purchase from people when it seems shady to you. In addition, 99% of these transactions involve PayPal now, and I've never had PayPal rule in favor of the seller when I felt I was "wronged" by someone and could prove it.

Third, every one of those other boards has a legal disclaimer stating to the fact that they are not responsible, and by using the marketplace board you are agreeing to abide by it. Pay an attorney $75 and have them concoct a wordy blurb to place at the top of the marketplace forum if it's that scary.

Fourth, you can always setup guidelines. On one of the forums the rules are you must have been a member for 3+ months, have 50+ posts, add pictures of your items for sale, and indicate your location. And surprise, it works well on there.

Sorry, but I've read the posts and the arguments, and none of them make sense to me other than just "not wanting to do it." Also, many of the members on Vogons seem to be outside of the US, and most people don't like to ship internationally, so I wonder if some of it isn't an "if I can't play, no one can" attitude. Does anyone know of any other hobby BB that does NOT have a sort of marketplace or trade/buy/sell forum???

Anyway, this isn't intended to offend, just stating my views.

7cjbill2 wrote:

Firstly, I understand that, but honestly, I am a member of 10+ bulletin boards (Turbo Ford, Subaru Legacy, OS2 World, etc.). AL […]
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Firstly, I understand that, but honestly, I am a member of 10+ bulletin boards (Turbo Ford, Subaru Legacy, OS2 World, etc.). ALL of them have a marketplace section, and I don't recall ANY of them every having "legal issues" because someone got con'ed. Yes, there have been issues of that nature, but the offender is usually banned or he injures his reputation so badly he can no longer do business.

Secondly, I think most people understand there is a certain amount of risk involved doing on-line transactions. You don't purchase from people when it seems shady to you. In addition, 99% of these transactions involve PayPal now, and I've never had PayPal rule in favor of the seller when I felt I was "wronged" by someone and could prove it.

Third, every one of those other boards has a legal disclaimer stating to the fact that they are not responsible, and by using the marketplace board you are agreeing to abide by it. Pay an attorney $75 and have them concoct a wordy blurb to place at the top of the marketplace forum if it's that scary.

Fourth, you can always setup guidelines. On one of the forums the rules are you must have been a member for 3+ months, have 50+ posts, add pictures of your items for sale, and indicate your location. And surprise, it works well on there.

Sorry, but I've read the posts and the arguments, and none of them make sense to me other than just "not wanting to do it." Also, many of the members on Vogons seem to be outside of the US, and most people don't like to ship internationally, so I wonder if some of it isn't an "if I can't play, no one can" attitude. Does anyone know of any other hobby BB that does NOT have a sort of marketplace or trade/buy/sell forum???

Anyway, this isn't intended to offend, just stating my views.

Hi 7cjbill2.

As you know, Vogons' forum is focused on playing old games on new systems, and for help with running Dosbox related issues and legitimate games.

In the passing of time, we have moved forward and started encompassing a bit more than old games on new systems and now have very good discussions regarding old hardwares, thanks to many vintage/retro PC hardware enthusiasts and knowledged members.

We are all free to give out our opinions, but, at the same time, we are bound to our moderators and administrators and the forum's rules.

Two things are frowned upon here, and not allowed, in addition to common forum rules :

1. Abandonware

2. Marketplace

You can think this as a more "focused" retro pc related hardware and older games discussions board, rather than like other forums.

(Of course, there's Milliways section for occassional tid-bits and some fun stuff.)

You can still communicate via your signature and PM (Private Messages) to whom are willing to sell or buy.

This problem had been discussed and addressed before in the sticky thread and the final word is out there - VOGONS is no marketplace!.

Cheers! 😀

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the forum, I post more on here than on any others....and have met some really good folks. However, the lack of a buy/sell/trade forum I think hurts the members more than it helps. 'Nuff said.

this isn't about the members.

think about it like this: This forum is hosted on a server, the server and the forum are private property. Someone has decided to spend their money and build a nice gathering place for people based on a few rules, on their property. They put a few rules out and let us come here as guests. If you don't like it, this is their property, they can tell you to leave at any time. Doing other than what they allow is simply rude and not within your rights, because this is not public property, it's private property and we are guests on it.

I respectfully disagree, and I had a long diatribe composed that dismantled all of your points, but I realize I'm not going to win this argument or change anyone's opinion, so talk amongst yourselves. In my life, I've grown tired of hearing the sheep complain about the pasture while I fend off the wolves, only eventually to be eaten myself. 😒

there is nothing to disagree about.
You are allowed to visit this forum as long as you stick to the rules.
If you don't like them. Get lost.

I can't believe the level of entitelement some people have these days...

I am an intelligent person with a real brain and can follow the rules but disagree with them at the same time. 😁 But I see, having my own opinion and expressing it is now construed as a "sense of entitlement" 😢