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They have no official Windows versions, and their official code only compiles for dos, so yes, they would be the DOS versions. On Steam, it's bundled with a protected version of DOSBox.

leileilol wrote:

On Steam, it's bundled with a protected version of DOSBox.

Bundled, not tied. Means you can run the games using whatever DOSBox version you want.

And the version of DOSBox isn't protected (anymore)

how was it "protected" ?

exe wrapper that checks for steam presence

That wrapper code seems to have been done away with for everything on Steam that uses DOSBox, meaning the Steam versions of those two games are indeed original DOS versions and have no copy protection whatsoever.

Didn't the original Spear of Destiny have copy protection by asking you for a question and you having to look up the answer in the manual? (or typing a special word that bypassed this copy protection)

I don't know, but if so that's been done away with also.

neat. something requested by dosbox team or they just took self-initiative?

I don't remember there ever being copy protection for Spear of Destiny.

ya me neither.

DosFreak wrote:

I don't remember there ever being copy protection for Spear of Destiny.

There is, it just asks you general trivia questions about the game's manual and id software

I'll load up the copy I got off of the Quake Shareware CD from back in the day and see tonight.

I suppose there were different versions.

Yeah, my old Spear of Destiny retail CD had the manual check questions too. I played that so much I, to this day, still have all the answers memorized.

static- wrote:

neat. something requested by dosbox team or they just took self-initiative?

It broke the DOSBbox license iirc which is what forced Steam to re-release the games with an unprotected version of DOSbox.

Nope it wasn't forced from our side, they used the stock 0.72 release and
added a wrapper which pretty likely complies with the license (who knows).

Thanks for all the info. I purchased Wolf3d from the id software web store and got what I wanted. I'll probably get Spear of Destiny too, once I'm done with this.

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In addition to recreating the original missions, I have also created brand new scenarios which go beyond the original scope and concept of Wolfenstein. Scenarios such as Operation: Arctic Wolf, Operation: Rheingold, and the Astrostein Trilogy take the Wolfenstein fan where no Wolfenstein has gone before, immersing the player in adventures not possible with the original Wolfenstein.

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