🤣 so true!

Surely the generation growing up with Pac Man or Space Invaders thought the same about Doom and being able to quick save 🤣

heh, one could make similar movie but with Quake in the first part and Pył in the second part 😉

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Surely the generation growing up with Pac Man or Space Invaders thought the same about Doom and being able to quick save 🤣

Pac Man or Space Invaders?
Dark Forces was released later than Doom and had no saving!

Old and pretentious rocket jumper lamer promotion video

this does the trope better and is actually real and it doesn't condescend on the audience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yIxUOWrtw&feature=related

The Doom one is awesome

Nice videos... 😵

leileilol wrote:

Old and pretentious rocket jumper lamer promotion video

I don't see that. His point was that games these days create beautiful, immersive looking worlds full of wonderous textures and physics, then chop off your legs and put you in a cart with a narrator explaining the journey, and you can not die.

The player at the end of the video ripping Quake apart might be top tier skill, but the fact is the game LET you become as good as you wanted. It had total, utter freedom. It was just as amazing looking as todays games, if not more so (for 1996) but it was also pure. Raw even.

I think it's an amazingly important video, as far as putting across his point. But it also makes me sad. I hear the old argument from younger generations of - Yeah but old people ALWAYS say things were better back in the day. Well I'm afraid they are right, a lot of old people say that. But in the case of PC gaming ... and gaming in general ... sadly, it's fucking true.

leileilol wrote:

doesn't condescend on the audience

Unlike a modern shooter.

😉

🤣 🤣

"New kids" to gaming wouldn't understand what that video is all about!

But yeah, rocket-jumpin' is just one of the movement skills, and it can't really complement the first half of that video and doesn't answer the hand-guided walkthrough of modern games the poster emphasized in the beginning.

... And this is why I've stopped playing. I enjoy being able to freely roam around and doing whatever I like without constantly being nagged. Or be treated to a lame cutscene every couple of steps.

Yes, there really was a lot of free roaming in Quake...

Pippy P. Poopypants wrote:

... And this is why I've stopped playing. I enjoy being able to freely roam around and doing whatever I like without constantly being nagged. Or be treated to a lame cutscene every couple of steps.

Have you tried Grand Theft Auto III/4, Assassin's Creed?

Not the same thing. Those are sandbox games. There are no "levels" in the traditional sense.

Assassin's Creed is basically a compilation of cutscenes. All interesting parts happen in cutscenes. Everything inbetween cutscenes is repetitive and boring. Even combat is boring; the game automatically locks on to the target and every click triggers a short cutscene where your character hits the enemy. I played about half of the first game when I realized I was doing the same things over and over again, while nothing really interesting happened.

Some days ago I was watching my sister play AC 3 (or brotherhood or something). She just finished a quest and got a new objective: 'Find the secret door'. A cutscene followed showing the location of this 'secret' door that didn't look so secret after all.. It was just any ordinary door, only this door was flashing like a fire truck light. That's where I couldn't stop laughing 🤣

The first AC was indeed repetitive, but it changed in next parts.
Don't worry there are real secrets on every level in this game too. 😀
And to find them you don't have to slide along all walls with spacebar being pressed 😉

robertmo wrote:

Have you tried Grand Theft Auto III/4, Assassin's Creed?

Haven't played Assassin's Creed but I did thoroughly enjoy the 3D GTA games, despite being bug-ridden. Yes you obviously still have to complete tasks in order to "complete" the game but the degree of freedom in those games is tremendous. My point is though, is that there aren't very many games nowadays that just let you play without constantly telling you what to do first. But either way, I'm not that easily amused anymore by modern gaming. 😀

Modern games suck for the most part. They focus too much on cutscenes and graphics and hype and celebrity voice acting and other bullshit like that, when really they should be focusing on immersion and great gameplay, like games used to. A lot of people my age don't really get why I prefer older games, but this is exactly the reason. 🤣 Also, I can't stand microtransactions, "pay-to-win", or non-free DLC.