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First post, by mr_bigmouth_502

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If this thing gets passed, it's going to severely lock down the internet for many of us (including those of us living in Canada or the US), it's going to put unwarranted surveillence measures into place, and worse of all, it will severely restrict people's rights when it comes to the usage of intellectual property. As well, this bill is being kept largely under wraps, so most of the general public won't have much say in the matter unless they find out about it.

Here's more info, and some petitions so you can show your support in fighting this fascist bill.

http://openmedia.ca/blog/whats-deal-demand-transparency-tpp

http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/openmediaca/2 … fic-partnership

http://stopthetrap.net/

http://openthetpp.net/

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Reply 1 of 11, by WolverineDK

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It is pretty fucked, just like ACTA was. And I fought against ACTA in Denmark back in the day. So these fucked up laws, just makes me shake my head again, and again in disbelief. It is no wonder why I am so much against those kind of so-called "anti piracy" and what the fuck not laws. So much for freedom, huh ?

Reply 2 of 11, by tincup

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Precient as George Orwell was he did not forsee Big Brother emerging from Big Business. John Dewey did though, when he said "politics is the shadow cast over society by Big Business"... Hopefully TPP will be just another example of [failed] traitorous commercial overreach.

Reply 3 of 11, by sliderider

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Please define what provisions of this law you consider fascist. Do you honestly believe that people who upload/download copyrighted content to/from the internet in violation of copyright law have the right to retain their anonymity so the copyright holders cannot take legal action against them? Do you honestly believe that websites or servers that host copyrighted material for public download should be left online after multiple violations of copyright law have been found? The only people I see crying about this are people who regularly download content illegally to avoid paying for legal copies. The ACTA bill I was concerned about not because it cracked down on violators but because it seemingly lacked due process for the accused. As long as the accused gets their day in court, I have no problem with authorities cracking down on copyright violators.

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Reply 5 of 11, by sliderider

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tincup wrote:

whose talking about repeadedly uploading/downloading copyrighted content?

That's what the bill is about, stopping the distribution or exhibition of copyrighted material without the copyright holders consent. Don't you think warez/abandonware sites fall under that? Don't you think people who host file sharing servers containing audio and video files fall under that? Duh!

Reply 6 of 11, by tincup

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the OP is pointing out the very shady aspect of the TPP. Corporate lobbies have been leaning hard on the courts and governemnts for years on extreme monitoring measures which may or may not deter piracy but will surely curtail honest activity. The secrecy surrounding the TPP should tell you something.

Reply 7 of 11, by mr_bigmouth_502

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I'm mainly against the bill because it violates people's privacy rights, it goes against regulations prohibiting "unwarranted search and seizure", and the implications of it being passed could potentially be a lot worse than many people would imagine. I mean, it's one thing to go after people who upload a large amount of copyrighted content, but what about all those parents who make videos of their kids dancing along to songs on the radio, or fan-artists who create tributes to their favorite works? This bill, if it passes, will have terrible consequences.

Reply 10 of 11, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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sliderider wrote:

Please define what provisions of this law you consider fascist. Do you honestly believe that people who upload/download copyrighted content to/from the internet in violation of copyright law have the right to retain their anonymity so the copyright holders cannot take legal action against them? Do you honestly believe that websites or servers that host copyrighted material for public download should be left online after multiple violations of copyright law have been found? The only people I see crying about this are people who regularly download content illegally to avoid paying for legal copies. The ACTA bill I was concerned about not because it cracked down on violators but because it seemingly lacked due process for the accused. As long as the accused gets their day in court, I have no problem with authorities cracking down on copyright violators.

Do you honesty belief that unwarranted search is a proper due process?

Gimme a fucking break. 🙄

Reply 11 of 11, by mr_bigmouth_502

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Guys, it looks like we have another trade agreement to worry about, and we didn't even learn about it until the last minute! The CETA (Canada-EU Trade Agreement), which has many of the same rights-infringing provisions as ACTA, is in its final negotiations. Here's more info http://openmedia.ca/blog/update-controversial … ards-conclusion

Also, sign the Declaration of Internet Freedom. Every signature counts!
http://openmedianow.net/declaration