Yes, quite unexpectedly, and the Republicans have taken control of both houses of Congress and the presidency for the first time since '04.

I'm interested to see who he will name for his cabinet.

Also, everyone's fallen into the depths of despair over this and predicting doomsday. It's not really that bad. And if you really can't stand it then Canada just made it easier to move there, so you have options.

I really think "Calexit" should happen. I'd love to see California cut off from the federal funding that keeps their bloated welfare system afloat.

I don't know what to think of the man. I don't care for Hillary much, either. But you know what? The thought of her having her finger on the button doesn't terrify me. Trump having his hands on the nuclear football terrifies me.

But hey maybe he really does love his country and wants to make things better and this isn't just some way to further inflate his ego. Maybe it won't be that bad.

Well, he has to get approval from at least one other high-ranking fellow in the government before he can press the nuclear button. Also if it was clearly the wrong thing to do, I'm pretty sure the military would disobey the order.

So I'm not too worried about nuclear war. The thing that worries me most about him is his trade policy; I'm a big free trade guy and I think if he wants to bring businesses back to America he should get them to come back of their own volition with lower taxes and decreased regulation rather than simply forcing them back with 35% tariffs and killing them in the process.

My word doesn't count in this discussion, but I actually like the guy... and the 1st lady's home was about 20km from me.

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As an American, I feel the need to explain to the rest of the world. This is my point of view, but I feel it is a very common one.

Trump won as symptom of systemic corruption. The majority of people only real reason to vote for him was to tear the system down. That was my reason. I watched one party cheat to defeat a VERY popular socialist jew. This anger, was a factor of Trump's win. The rest was a bunch of idiots who heard the dog whistle of "DEY TOOK UR JERBS", or other BS reasons. Ever want to know what is really happening? Watch Southpark: http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104259/they-took-our-jobs

I hope for one of two outcomes:

#1: Trump actually does a good job. We need to do a lot of work on us infrastructure. etc.
#2: He fucks things up so bad, the government goes through a complete overhaul. Hopefully for the better.

keenmaster486 wrote:

The thing that worries me most about him is his trade policy; I'm a big free trade guy and I think if he wants to bring businesses back to America he should get them to come back of their own volition with lower taxes and decreased regulation rather than simply forcing them back with 35% tariffs and killing them in the process.

Not from the US, but I agree with this. Also if the industry sector come back to the US and have to rebuild/setup factories, what stops them setting the factories up with robots and automation to maximize profits?

vetz wrote:

keenmaster486 wrote:

The thing that worries me most about him is his trade policy; I'm a big free trade guy and I think if he wants to bring businesses back to America he should get them to come back of their own volition with lower taxes and decreased regulation rather than simply forcing them back with 35% tariffs and killing them in the process.

Not from the US, but I agree with this. Also if the industry sector come back to the US and have to rebuild/setup factories, what stops them setting the factories up with robots and automation to maximize profits?

It's going to happen. Nothing NOBODY is going to stop. WATCH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

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As an American, I feel the need to explain to the rest of the world. This is my point of view, but I feel it is a very common o […]
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As an American, I feel the need to explain to the rest of the world. This is my point of view, but I feel it is a very common one.

Trump won as symptom of systemic corruption. The majority of people only real reason to vote for him was to tear the system down. That was my reason. I watched one party cheat to defeat a VERY popular socialist jew. This anger, was a factor of Trump's win. The rest was a bunch of idiots who heard the dog whistle of "DEY TOOK UR JERBS", or other BS reasons. Ever want to know what is really happening? Watch Southpark: http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104259/they-took-our-jobs

I hope for one of two outcomes:

#1: Trump actually does a good job. We need to do a lot of work on us infrastructure. etc.
#2: He fucks things up so bad, the government goes through a complete overhaul. Hopefully for the better.

I actually voted for Bernie in the primary. I've never voted Democrat in my life, only Libertarian and Republican. But I don't see those people making things any better. I really don't want to see "Hunger Games" 10-20 years from now, but that seems to be the way we are heading.

And you are totally correct that this election was basically everyones way of throwing a Molotov cocktail because they are pissed.

luckybob wrote:

vetz wrote:

keenmaster486 wrote:

The thing that worries me most about him is his trade policy; I'm a big free trade guy and I think if he wants to bring businesses back to America he should get them to come back of their own volition with lower taxes and decreased regulation rather than simply forcing them back with 35% tariffs and killing them in the process.

Not from the US, but I agree with this. Also if the industry sector come back to the US and have to rebuild/setup factories, what stops them setting the factories up with robots and automation to maximize profits?

It's going to happen. Nothing NOBODY is going to stop. WATCH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

Manufacturing jobs are never coming back to this country, Foxconn fired 60,000 people and replaced them with robots. And you're telling me that Americans with an 8th grade education are suddenly going to be valuable manufacturing employees? Those jobs are gone forever and never coming back. Hell, we are 5-10 years at most away from completely automating shipping. What are these people going to do when there is literally nothing productive for them to do?

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What are these people going to do when there is literally nothing productive for them to do?

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snorg wrote:

What are these people going to do when there is literally nothing productive for them to do?

So either you're saying they are going to go back to subsistence living off the land or jerk off all day, not sure which.

I'm hoping for star trek. People live each of their lives to their fullest and as they see fit.

More likely, we will start kill each other. 😜

luckybob wrote:

I'm hoping for star trek. People live each of their lives to their fullest and as they see fit.

More likely, we will start kill each other. 😜

Bernie might have been the first step down the path to the Star Trek future, or at least a more moderate one. We are full-on Hunger Games now.

I know one thing, South Park is going to be glorious tonight.

Thesetopics are always difficult - so please keep it civil (so please go on as you are doing).

The world in Star Trek is only possible because the basic human needs that drive the economy and the need for exchange of goods and services (i.e., food, shelter, etc.) have been rendered essentially free (that is, free to everyone and not free because the government forced someone else to pay for it) by replicator technology.

Until we have Star Trek replicators, capitalism will remain the most efficient way to feed, clothe, and shelter everyone.

In theory, if God or some omnipotent technology provided unlimited food, shelter, and clothing for everyone, then there would really be no fundamental need for an economy any more and luckybob's dream will have been realized.

snorg: This is not Hunger Games. In four years things will have changed a lot, but Trump will not turn America into an authoritarian dictatorship.

Most of all, I was so looking forward to a return to something vaguely akin to normalcy. But no, it's going to be four years of listening to round-the-clock coverage of the latest outrage and craziness spewed forth by someone who is, inarguably, inexperienced. And political threads on message boards about old computers.

Considering George W. managed to endure, we can probably look forward to eight years of this when in 2020 the Democrats fail to come up with anyone more stirring than Kerry.

Guess we might as well strap in; it's going to be a bumpy ride. The only consolation is that in the end, there are limits to just how much a president can do.

Apologies if I shouldn't have started this thread, but I felt this situation merited comment.

I don't have any desire to harangue anyone about their vote, everyone had their reasons for voting however they did. Our political process is fundamentally flawed. If you feel this thread will be better off locked, lock it, I don't have any more to say about it.

No worries, I think you're right; this did merit comment.

Yes, our political process is flawed. Honestly, if I had my druthers I would eliminate the Electoral College and make everything by popular vote. In that case Clinton would have won, which is not good for me as a Republican, but whatever.