dr_st wrote:
That is completely true, but seeing that most such clowns don't really generate their own reports, but merely recycle what they see elsewhere, I would not ignore something just because it also appears on the website of such a clown. That's kind of the point I'm trying to make, not that you should actively go to them for information.
Even organizations which are more "mainstream", like Drudge or Breitbart, have a history of manufacturing stories from whole cloth.
Incidently, I didn't know the "Righteous Daughters of Jihadi Excellence" story line from "The Newsroom" was actually something which happened.
PeterLI wrote:What I have seen, traveling the US, plus experience first hand is that an America that used to be a society based on European immigration and Christianity with an ability for people who were willing to work to make a decent living and raise a family has been replaced by aggressive immigration / Islamization, near full dependency on the federal government (section 8, food stamps, Obama-care, welfare, disability, extended unemployment) and replacement of white males in the workforce. Combined with international trade (e.g. moving jobs abroad, importing vast numbers of foreign workers to the US). Not a surprise that a totally destroyed heartland is fed up. Plus that many white voters in coastal states and urban areas are revolting as well. 😀 These are undisputed facts. Globalization and being open to the world and giving away $ to the rest of the world is a great Utopian / ethical bonanza for liberals but it destroys prosperity / stability for the people who built the USA. The same applies unequivocally to any other western society.
These are not undisputed facts.
I agree that international trade certainly has made it possible to exploit cheap labor and resulted in decimation of jobs in the industrial heartland. In some ways this is inevitable (unless you choose to be insular like North Korea), but neither the Dems or Repubs have done a very good job of ensuring free trade is also fair trade, nor has there been sufficient work done to promote new businesses and industries for those peoples and regions affected.
On the other hand, the belief that poor people have a sweet ride, that women and minorities participating in society at large have "stolen" the rights and opportunities of white men, and the fear of the great brown scourge are all useless distractions from more serious discussions that we need to be having as nations and societies.
I grew up in rural farming country and you will have to go far to find finer people. It makes me ashamed to see such toxic rhetoric being supported by people for whom I feel such kinship, rhetoric which they would so often be ashamed to use to a person's face.
