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I don't know if this belongs here, but I felt like it wouldn't really fit in general hardware because that's more "halp mi my thri ait six di ex thurti thri megihurtz d i e d" sort of stuff. At least, that's what I end up using it for 🤣

However, for some odd reason when I started my obsession and hoarding of computers, in which I recently moved to an apartment and had to shed 20-30 computers and even more parts, I always was on the quest to make a "time-accurate," machine- "THIS FEBURARY 1999 PC HAS A FEBRUARY 1999 PROCESSOR AND A FEBRUARY 1999 VIDEO CARD AND A FEBUR-" sort of thing. And while I've come to realize that it makes no sense for things to be that way, I still have a knack for wanting time-accurate everything- an OEM motherboard in a custom build wouldn't make sense for somebody building a rig back in the day (my Gateway 440BX), that processor was released in late '99 and would've been so expensive people couldn't have really afforded it (my PIII Coppermine 600MHz), that video card was made in 2000 and not 1999 (my RIVA TNT2 32MB), and that CD/DVD/CD-RW drive wasn't made in 1999 (currently all of my available drives)- you get the idea.

If you notice- all of these gripes pertain specifically to my "HL1," build, which originally started out as a very late 1998/early 1999 system. I really kicked off this build in the summer of 2018, when I got the Gateway 440BX motherboard, and it's still unfinished, it's still never good enough, even though it plays HL1 at 1024x768 via OpenGL quite well, not to mention that it blasts it at lower resolutions, with hardware no newer than 2000, and all of the architectures and designs being made in 1999, if not earlier. Yet, it's never good enough. I never can consider it complete. My 486 uses a totally different, hard-modded case, a sound card from 1997, and it makes no sense for what somebody would've had in 1994, yet I'm sort of ok with it, even though it still has legitimate problems.

My P200 build is slowly starting to suffer the same fate as my HL1 build, and I don't know why I do this. The CD drive I have in the HL1 build has always been a point of aggressive debate, does it even make sense anymore to not just throw in a CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive from early 2001 in there and call it a day? Leave the 600MHz CPU, the video card, alone, because they do what I want and with a decent compromise of "too fast," and "too little performance"?

This drives me insane anymore. Is it worth it to have a ~1999 system with parts all genuinely made in 1999 or prior? To spend upwards of US$60 online just so that I have a non-OEM board instead of my Gateway 440BX board, that, knock on wood, does just fine? Hell, the board itself was even made in 1999, the bios that came with it stated as such! (I later updated the BIOS for obvious reasons)

This would be okay if I did it with newer things, like my 2008 build, which legitimately had all its parts made during or before the summer of 2008. But when I start doing this with '90s systems, I have PCs that I won't fully accept and use for years because it's not exactly what I want it to be. It's obsessive, and it results in me hoarding parts that I bought prior for whatever it was, just to realize that it's not fast enough or that it's not old enough. AGH, it's maddening at best.

Is all of this worth it? Why not just be ok with parts that do the trick and are a good compromise between too new and too old? Like a 20GB IDE drive made in 2003 that I have, I could use it in this system, and it wouldn't even be that far off from what a high-end '99 system would have, yet I use a 6.4GB drive from '99- I'm fairly happy with the 6.4GB of storage, but I've looked at 10-18GB drives made in '98 and '99, because it has to be made around that time, there's absolutely no other way.

sorry for the rant but im not sure what im doing anymore with this stuff. unchecked, i hoard, i hoard so much i end up losing space in my room to move around other than to key locations like my main desk, old pc desks and bed. luckily, i just moved, and now have a normal room again that i'm really trying to keep clean and neat, but its a problem and i know it. i normally wouldnt get this serious but i feel like im not the only one here who has this sort of problem.

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Reply 2 of 39, by Byrd

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Yep, so-called period builds = wankery at best.

In the day most machines were upgraded - more often than today - depending on need. I liked to max out what ever I had, so was usually a generation or two behind the norm but with heaps of RAM, a fast GPU bottlenecked by the CPU, and whatever I could overclock up to without killing it.

Reply 3 of 39, by krcroft

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I think there's value and personal growth in holding whatever you do to high standards; so if that means achieving a tight date range on the components in a system, then that's something you can work toward and be happy about (say in a couple machines.. nail it down and populate them with all the goodies of the timeframe).

But when other issues like unchecked collecting (hoarding) muddy your pathway, then reassess to focus on what matters and get rid of what's in your way.

Hope to see your period-perfect build(s)!

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Reply 4 of 39, by mrau

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its an individual thing id say - i personally value other things but i can fully appreciate a nice setup with proper software and config; i suppose its about a sensitivity to historic market evolution and ocd-ish precision in parameters of the selected parts; a 486 with a tnt2 is a nice thing to test but really it is a mutant as well..

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Can't remember all my various builds but I found these in my files. This will be sure to drive you crazy.
I respect your commitment and knowledge, keep it up but don't let your body be found under a mountain of computer hardware unless that's the way you want to go. heh

Feb 99
K63-400
Soyo SY-5EMA+
Nvidia TNT1
Can't remember the rest

FEB 2000
Motherboard: Soyo SY5EMA+
Processor : AMD K63-400@433 124mhz fsb @3.5 multiplier
Floppy : 1 5.25", and 1 3,5"
Hard Drives: 1 Maxtor 68000 27.2g 7200rpm DMA/66, 1 Maxtor 7.2g 5400rpm DMA/33
CDROMS : 1 Ricoh MP7040A CDRW 4x4x24, 1 Creative DVD 6X-DVD 24X-CD
Video : Matrox G400 SH OEM 32m AGP
Sound : Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer
Decoder : DXR3 (Sigma Designs Hollywood +)
NIC : ISA SMC 10BT
RAM : 128M PC-100 Generic
Mouse : Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer with Intellieye (USB)
Joystick : Microsoft Precision Pro (USB)
Gamepad : Original Microsoft Sidewinder Gamepad
Monitor : 15" Proview POS

Quake 3 demo001

5.50.010
With 5.30.007
G400.DRV,G400.VXD
G400DD32.DLL and
5.50.010 G400DD.VXD
and TURBOGL

1152X864
27.0

1024X768
32.0

960X720
22.3

800X600
35.5

640X480
35.8

512X384
36.1

Upgraded the above later to a Geforce 2 GTS 64

SEPT 2000

P3550@630 115mhz FSB X 5.5M
Abit BE6 Rv1
128m PC-100 Generic
Prophet II 64mb GTS
220C/390M
Buffer Flipping Mode - Page Flip
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Quake 3 V1.17
Nvidia Windows 2000 6.18 Drivers

16b/32b
1152X864=46.6/36.3
1024X768=49.7/42.3
960X720 =50.8/50.2
800X600 =52.2/50.1
640X480 =52.6/52.2
512X384 =52.7/52.4
400X300 =53.0/52.6
320X240 =53.0/52.7

NOV 2002

Doom v0.0.2 Benchmarks

No Ansio No AA

320X240 =62.6
400X300 =62.4
512X384 =62.3
640X480 =60.6
800X600 =53.5
1024X768 =42.0
1152X768 =36.4
1280X1024=31.9
1600X1200=31.2

16x Ansio
320X240 =62.5
400X300 =62.4
512X384 =61.8
640X480 =59.1
800X600 =51.0
1024X768 =39.7
1152X768 =34.6
1280X1024=31.4
1600X1200=31.2

6X AA

320X240 =51.1
400X300 =44.5
512X384 =34.6
640X480 =31.6
800X600 =31.3
1024X768 =31.2
1152X768 =31.2
1280X1024=31.2
1600X1200=31.2

Monitor =Sony E500 21"
Speakers =Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 THX Certified 6 piece Personal Audio System
Mouse =Microsoft Intellimouse Optical SE (PS2)
Joystick =Microsoft Precision Pro (USB1)
Gamepad =Logitech Wingman Rumplepad (USB1)
Keyboard =Microsoft Office Keyboard USB & PS/2 v1.0a (PS2)
Case =Coolermaster ATCS-110 w/Enermax EG651P 550W PSU w/ Variable Fan
Motherboard=Abit KX7-333R Bios B6
Processor =AMD Athlon XP 2000 @1666mhz 133X12.5
Cooling =Alpha PAL8045
Memory =Corsair 512MB XMS3200 DDR CAS2 (2 512mb DIMMS=1GB)
Video =ATI Radeon 9700 Pro Retail Core=324mhz Memory=310.50Mhz
Floppy =3.5"

MOBO CONTROLLER DMA/100
PMIDE1/Maxtor L080J4 80GB @ DMA/133 (OS)
PSIDE1/LiteOn 48x12x48x CDRW @ DMA/33
SMIDE2/Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1612 @ DMA/33
SSIDE2/LiteOn 48x12x48x CDRW @ DMA/33

HPT372 CONTROLLER DMA/133 Bios v2.32
PMIDE3/Western Digital 120GB 00JB-75CRA0 @DMA/100 8MB CACHE (GAMES)
SSIDE3/Western Digital 120GB 00JB-75CRA0 @DMA/100 8MB CACHE (BACKUP/VPC/VMWARE IMAGES)
SMIDE4/Western Digital 120GB 00JB-75CRA0 @DMA/100 8MB CACHE (IMAGES1)
SSIDE4/Western Digital 120GB 00JB-75CRA0 @DMA/100 8MB CACHE (IMAGES2)

PCI SLOTS
PCI1/EMPTY (currenty filled by USB1 extension)
PCI2/Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum
PCI3/Generic NEC USB2 Card
PCI4/Intel Pro/1000 MT Desktop NIC
PCI5/Linksys Wireless PCI Card WMP11
PCI6/EMPTY

USB DEVICES
Asoka Powerline ADM8511 FastEthernet (USB1)
ME-320U2 3.5"/5.25" External Enclosure IDE to USB 2.0 (External Backup)
ME-320 USB2/IEE394 (Work/Home Transfer)
HP ScanJet 4470c (USB1)

Windows 98SE/NT4 Workstation/2000 Advanced Server Server slipstreamed SP3/XP Pro SP1 (2000 Main OS)
Catalyst 2.3 Drivers
DirectX 8.1b Build 4.08.01.0901 /Windows 2000
Directx 8.1 Build 810 /Windows XP
Via 4.43 4-in-1

FEB 11 2003??

Monitor =Sony E500 21"
Speakers =Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 THX Certified 6 piece Personal Audio System
Mouse =Microsoft Intellimouse Optical SE (PS2)
Joystick =Microsoft SideWinder Force Feedback 2 (USB1)
Gamepad =Logitech Wingman Rumplepad (USB1)
Keyboard =Microsoft Office Keyboard USB & PS/2 v1.0a (PS2)
Case =Coolermaster ATCS-110 w/Enermax EG651P 550W PSU w/ Variable Fan
Motherboard=ASUS A7N8X Deluxe
Processor =AMD Athlon XP 2800+ @2.25ghz 2x166X13.5
Cooling =Alpha PAL8045
Memory =Corsair 512MB XMS3200 DDR CAS2 (2 512mb DIMMS=1GB)
Video =ATI Radeon 9700 Pro Retail Core=324mhz Memory=310.50Mhz
Floppy =3.5"

MOBO CONTROLLER DMA/133
PMIDE1/Western Digital 120GB 00JB-75CRA0 @DMA/100 8MB CACHE (OS)
PSIDE1/Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1612 @ DMA/33
SMIDE2/IBM 120GB @DMA/100 (GAMES)
SSIDE2/LiteOn 48x12x48x CDRW @ DMA/33

PCI SLOTS
PCI1/EMPTY
PCI2/Linksys Wireless PCI Card WMP11
PCI3/Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum
PCI4/Intel Pro/1000 MT Desktop NIC
PCI5/Generic NEC USB2 Card

USB DEVICES
Linksys PowerLine (USB1)
ME-320U2 3.5"/5.25" External Enclosure IDE to USB 2.0 (External Backup)
ME-320 USB2/IEE394 (Work/Home Transfer)
HP ScanJet 4470c (USB1)
Samsung Model=SFD-321U USB Floppy (USB1)
Logitech QuickCam Express (USB1)

USB/Firewire External Drive
SSIDE3/Western Digital 120GB 00JB-75CRA0 @DMA/100 8MB CACHE (BACKUP/VPC/VMWARE IMAGES)
SMIDE4/Western Digital 120GB 00JB-75CRA0 @DMA/100 8MB CACHE (IMAGES1)
SSIDE4/Western Digital 120GB 00JB-75CRA0 @DMA/100 8MB CACHE (IMAGES2)

Windows 98SE/NT4 Workstation/2000 Advanced Server Server slipstreamed SP3/XP Pro SP1 (2000 Main OS)
Catalyst v3.1 Drivers
DirectX 9.0 Windows 2000
Directx 9.0 Windows XP
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3DMARK 2003 Free Version

1024X768
3DMark Score =4674 3dmarks
GT1 - Wings of Fury =160.2907867 fps
GT2 - Battle of Proxycon =30.54877091 fps
GT3 - Troll's Lair =28.21529579 fps
GT4 - Mother Nature =27.04251862 fps
CPU Score =558 CPUMarks
CPU Test 1 =58.86920548 fps
CPU Test 2 =10.49755955 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)=1492.909302 Texels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) =2265.878662 Texels/s
Vertex Shader =14.88986111 fps
Pixel Shader 2.0 =41.03519821 fps
Ragtroll =19.90049744 fps
No sounds =36.92776108 fps
24 sounds =31.59898377 fps
60 sounds =28.17258835 fps

This system was later upgraded with an X800 Pro

Athlon XP 2800+
1GB DDR333
ATI X800 PRO

Doom 3 demo1
9700 x8Pro X8Pro/16pipes
320X240 =41.9 52.9 52.9
400x300 =41.8 52.9 52.9
512x384 =41.8 52.9 52.9
640x480 =41.8 52.9 52.9
800x600 =39.5 52.9 52.9
1024x768 =32.9 52.2 52.9
1152x864 =28.9 50.0 51.2
1280x1024=23.7 45.1 48.9
1600x1200=14.4 36.8 41.7

Current specs
DosFreak All System Specs 10-25-2022

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Reply 6 of 39, by Shagittarius

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Personally I had more fun with the first upgrade cycle that happened after all the latest game releases. I would go back and replay all the new games when I got a new video card because back in the day even the latest video card really couldn't handle the latest games flawlessly. So it was most exciting playing something maxed out with no frame rate hitches. I don't care about period correct at all, just compatibility and raw power.

Reply 7 of 39, by athlon-power

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DosFreak wrote:

Can't remember all my various builds but I found these in my files. This will be sure to drive you crazy.
I respect your commitment and knowledge, keep it up but don't let your body be found under a mountain of computer hardware unless that's the way you want to go. heh

I really don't want to be found under a pile of computers, and even though that is a joke, near the end of it, that started to actually become a threat. I'd rather have a few good, solid systems than 20ish crappy Dell computers from 2002-2005, 75% of them with leaked motherboard caps, this isn't counting the other computers I managed to somehow acquire. Even when I knew I had too much, I kept going.

And yes, several of those systems drive me crazy. GeForce 2 with a K6-III, mmm. No. 🤣

You seem to have had a habit of pairing video cards too powerful for your CPUs. Putting that in context, however, I once had a Core i5 2310 system with 8GB of DDR3 1333 using a GeForce 1050 Ti. I also had a Core2Quad Q6600 with 8GB of DDR2 800MHz (I think) and a Radeon HD 6770. I remember being blown away by the fact that I could run Slender the Arrival and Outlast at high-max settings at 1440x900, and nearly everything I wanted to run at the time, this being in late 2016 and very early 2017. I also remember getting that 1050 Ti and also being blown away when I could run the new Battlefront II and various other games. That's worn off largely, when I get a new rig now, I'm looking for upgrade paths within a few months.

Shagittarius wrote:

Personally I had more fun with the first upgrade cycle that happened after all the latest game releases. I would go back and replay all the new games when I got a new video card because back in the day even the latest video card really couldn't handle the latest games flawlessly. So it was most exciting playing something maxed out with no frame rate hitches. I don't care about period correct at all, just compatibility and raw power.

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Yep, so-called period builds = wankery at best.

In the day most machines were upgraded - more often than today - depending on need. I liked to max out what ever I had, so was usually a generation or two behind the norm but with heaps of RAM, a fast GPU bottlenecked by the CPU, and whatever I could overclock up to without killing it.

I see the "new video card," option is much more common than I previously thought. I do get that point of view- for people where it's more about the games themselves, a good old Pentium 4 paired with a newer AGP video card and a compatible sound card can play whatever the hell they want, whether it be Half-Life 2 or DOOM. For me, I do enjoy the games, but I also enjoy the hardware and using the older software itself. I'm not sure why, though I have an idea. I'm not going to get into that because it's an incredibly long explanation encapsulating what is essentially my entire life story, something an old computer forum probably doesn't need nor want to hear.

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I think there's value and personal growth in holding whatever you do to high standards; so if that means achieving a tight date range on the components in a system, then that's something you can work toward and be happy about (say in a couple machines.. nail it down and populate them with all the goodies of the timeframe).

But when other issues like unchecked collecting (hoarding) muddy your pathway, then reassess to focus on what matters and get rid of what's in your way.

Hope to see your period-perfect build(s)!

If I wasn't able to move, I would've never been able to get rid of it all. With how things are going, I have the liberty of getting what's good out and leaving the rest of it behind, where it will likely be crushed under the roof as the house is torn down. It's not what I want to do, as I feel like I'm abandoning them- even though they're inanimate objects. It's probably not a good complex to have, to empathize with things that have no conscious and are nothing more than metal, plastic, fiberglass, and silicon, but I still do. Most of the things were broken at that point anyways- not sure why I have any attachment at all to them, but I do.

I don't even know where I started initially, or why. It's been a little over five years now, and while that's a small amount for most, this has been 27% of my life. There was a time when I used to not know what an "AT Keyboard," was, that there was different speeds of 486 marked by different generations, and more than I can think of at the moment. Why I hit this so hard and went for so long and continue to do so, I will never know, except for a few really good guesses.

Where am I?

Reply 8 of 39, by Anonymous Coward

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I like period correct builds, but I'm willing to make compromises. They need to at least pass for period correct from the outside.
I'll use a case with a newer production date as long as it can pass some something older. Inwin H500 ATX desktop cases from the late 90s for example have a really dated look. They're very square, and beige. Plus they lack USB headers and front mounted headphone jacks, so I'm okay using them in 486 builds.
The same goes for CD-ROM drives. Panasonic used the same faceplate from 1992 until the end of the 90s, so if it doesn't have any extra silkscreen there's no way to tell them apart.
It was fairly common for people to upgrade their systems if they owned them for several years. I'm willing to accept newer cards as long as they don't compromise too much compatibility with period correct software. I wouldn't for example put a PCI graphics card into a 486 if it didn't have Windows 3.x drivers. I also wouldn't use a sound card that had to emulate FM synth. I think this is more of a problem for PCI than ISA, unless you're working on a really old ISA system like an 8088 or 286.

I don't care about hard drives at all, because they're so unreliable. As long as it works, it's fine. Stuff like CF and those floppy emulators are fine too, but I like to try to hide them if possible.

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Reply 9 of 39, by appiah4

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Its a hobby. Its your hobby. Whatever gives you more gratification is whatever matters. You do you.

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Reply 10 of 39, by Shagittarius

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I've got a DVD-ROM drive on my IBM 5170.

It of course can't read DVDs its just what came in the external SCSI enclosure and I use it for CD-ROMS which in itself would be a bit off.

Reply 11 of 39, by konc

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One thing I never understood with these period correct builds: a part becomes available (=gets released at a crazy price and in a specific country) on some date and Bill Gate's son and his friends buy it. Why is it considered period correct when the majority only saw/bought it maybe a year later, if not more in the early years when evolution was slower? I'd call it period-exotic 🤣

Reply 12 of 39, by appiah4

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konc wrote:

One thing I never understood with these period correct builds: a part becomes available (=gets released at a crazy price and in a specific country) on some date and Bill Gate's son and his friends buy it. Why is it considered period correct when the majority only saw/bought it maybe a year later, if not more in the early years when evolution was slower? I'd call it period-exotic 🤣

Thats exaggeration. You reckon insignificant number of 2080Tis were sold in 2019? Or AMD wont sell out of 3970X CPUs? It was always this way. Things eere expensive yes but not unaffordable, that is a misconception.

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Reply 13 of 39, by badmojo

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appiah4 wrote:

Its a hobby. Its your hobby. Whatever gives you more gratification is whatever matters. You do you.

+1

It gets hard to invent new excuses for building retro PCs after a while but I'm still managing it somehow because I enjoy the process (for the most part). I don't go overboard with the "period correct" thing but it adds some extra challenge and opportunity for obsessive pedantry. Contrived yes, but isn't that the case for all hobbies?

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Reply 14 of 39, by chinny22

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appiah4 wrote:

Its a hobby. Its your hobby. Whatever gives you more gratification is whatever matters. You do you.

Yep This!
Personally I like maxing out a motherboard to the max, fastest CPU/video, largest HDD, maximum ram cacheabe limit be damned.
Do my builds make sence? not really I'm taking a performance hit on the ram and the graphics card is bottle necked by the CPU but it makes me happy.

I do think limiting yourself to hardware that were actually manufactured by the target date is a bit extreme. If the CD drive was released in '99 but you get one manufactured in 2001 I'd still call it authentic.

I also think its fair enough when people compromise and use things like CF cards or modern PSU's. Personally I love the sound of the HDD on boot but especially on dos rigs with small HDD limits CF card makes so much more sense.
Also keep in mind, PC's by design are upgradable. Back then more then now it was very common to for a more staggered upgrade. This year MB/CPU/RAM following year HDD, or graphics card. CD-ROM's etc wouldn't be replaced until dead so may be 5 years older then the rest of the system.

but

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Its a hobby. Its your hobby. Whatever gives you more gratification is whatever matters. You do you.

I would recommend deciding what you want from a build before you start. Period correctness or able to play your games well.
Alot of people have 2 systems for this reason. A period build for when they want the authentic experience. Then a machine where the hardware is selected around the game ignoring what year it's from for when you want the game to play it it's best.

But only you can decide what compromises are acceptable and what'll bug you till you replace it anyway.

Reply 15 of 39, by GigAHerZ

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I get a kick out of "architecture accuracy".

I have 3 machines - a Am386DX-40 with ISA slots, 32MB of 30pin ram and 256kB cache, a Am486DX4-100 with ISA + VLB slots, 64MB of 72pin ram and 256kB cache and a Pentium MMX @ 266MHz with ISA + PCI slots and 256MB of SD-RAM.

What you might notice is that for example in case of ram it's ludicrous amount. Yet, i use the type of ram that is "architecture correct". I don't search VLB boards for 386 or pentium and i don't want to have PCI on my 486. Same goes with everything else. Top notch configuration, yet still using the architecture correct components.

This is what makes it exciting to me - the best possible configuration, that would have been achievable back in days when money was not limited. (Though, i'm not interested in specific workstation type of machines)

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Reply 16 of 39, by imi

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I believe I had 96MB of ram in my 386DX40 machine back in the day... with a 80MB HDD 🤣

appiah4 wrote:

Its a hobby. Its your hobby. Whatever gives you more gratification is whatever matters. You do you.

^also this 😀

Reply 17 of 39, by Jo22

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appiah4 wrote:

Its a hobby. Its your hobby. Whatever gives you more gratification is whatever matters. You do you.

+1

While I think that period-correctness has its reasons (ie, it helps understanding the limits and design choice of past times, nostalgia, mental time-travel
etc),
I think that it shouldn't be overdone either. Sometimes its better to be very logical or unlogical (emotional) and combine parts that work together the "best", despite their age each.
Heck, I was upgrading a 286-12 (1988 BIOS) with a PAS16+SCSi CD-ROM drive/80MB IDE HDD/ Fax Modem/4MiB of RAM.. - Way back in the mid-90s (!!). 😁

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Reply 18 of 39, by sf78

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To me part of it was getting matching monitors and keyboards for the desktop. I only have a few IBM's and Canon's that I would consider "complete" and everything else is just a mixed back of whatever I can throw together. That being said, I try to match the hardware to the software so in that regard everything is period correct. Only exception is the XP era where you can pretty much build a monster rig that is basically compatible with every game released within a 10 year period. There were also less problems with GPU related choices in the 90's as you'd just pick any decent VGA/SVGA card and you were good to go. When the ATI/Nvidia AMD/Intel war started you had games that were optimized for certain hardware and tons of CPU's and GPU's with small differences. It was much simpler to just max everything out and leave it at that.

Reply 19 of 39, by Jo22

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Well, it's a little bit similar here, I admit. Whenever I make some little YT vids, I often (but not always) *try* to make things "fit best".
For example, I try to show CRTs in conjunction with the XT/AT PCs, so people "get a feel" for another time that they perhaps haven't experienced on their own.
Or I put older pictures, calendars and cheesy pop culture stuff in the background. Things like this..

On the other hand, though, I have no issues in using, say, DOS 6.x on a 1985 PC. 😀
It's UMB and EMS enabled stuff is a great help in running old programs properly/with all features (better than they used to be).
(Edit: I'm also installing Gotek floppy emulators in addition to real floppy drives or use then expensive EMS/UMB cards..)

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