Reply 40 of 54, by Jo22
kolderman wrote on 2021-09-29, 19:59:
What I meant by that comment is what they did with the Stargate reboot, aka Stargate Universe....i.e. it was utter rubbish and nothing like the excellent SG1 and Atlantis.
I felt the same about SGU. I mean, I had a slight aversion against Atlantis, too, at first, but the actors made up for the shortcommings (imho).
Not so in SGU. It seemed as no one has (had) fun doing that show. The constant body switching stories made me tired, also.
Anyway, the graphics (steam-punk gate, computer panels) and the idea itself of an ancient ship flying through eternity wasn't so bad , imho.
For me, it was simply the too dark and depressing setting. A bit more diversity in character and scenery would have been nice.
ratfink wrote on 2021-09-29, 23:08:
"Reboot" doesn't mean "remake" I suppose. Will be interested to see how it turns out. These shows with multiple humanoid races already have plenty of minority politics so whether or not they build that in may not change it all that much. That said, if they changed the characterisation to reflect modern mores... would be weird. But having said that, I've been quite surprised watching old films lately (40s/50s/60s) at how many modern attitudes and agendas are there already...
I'd mainly hope it doesn't turns out like Space 1999 (where everybody looks bored all the time, and which probably would have been better in supermarionation) or Lexx which I always felt should have been fantastic from the visuals but never engaged me.
Oh, it always thought this merely was the British style! I mean, it's a show that comes from an island where it's always rainy/windy and where the sun never shines. Just kidding! 😀
Personally, I didn't mind the the slightly wooden acting when I saw Mondbasis Alpha 1 as a kid first time.
I mean, the story is about an atomic accident that causes the moon to leave earth..
And in the process, earth faces hugh trouble. The earth orbit goes wooosh, tidal waves and earth quakes destroy everything etc etc.
If that isn't a reason to be shocked or depressed, I don't know. The Alphans could also have had gotten totally mad instead.
But yeah, I get the point. The acting could have been less wooden. Which in fact, was proven in the second run of the show (which took place even furher into the future ?).
Which, technically, was a completely different show (aimed at US audiences). Maya was great, but all the other monsters that constantly appeared weren't so much imho.
That being said, I found it much better than UFO, still, which for some reason, that's beyond me, is somewhat hyped by fans nowadays.
Also, Space: 1999 was a rather early show, a pioneer so to say - it predated Alien, Battlestar Galactica, Star Wars and Silent Running.
So I guess it could have been worse, say, more like Space Patrol Orion. He-heh. 😉
Btw, there's a documentary about Space: 1999.
I think that might be the one that I've seen years ago, but I'm not 100% sure.
awgamer wrote on 2021-09-30, 10:21:
Sex couldn't sell that show.
Hm, you might be right. Still liked the fact that it was so "trippy" sometimes. 🤣
But to be honest, I never knew if something in the show was meant to be serious or a parody.
On the positive side, though: The computer animations were nice and very 90s-ish, a bit like those of B5, just cheaper.
And the characters were also refreshing in some ways. Stanley, which looked a bit like a lift boy, was supposed to be a bit simple minded guy,
but was the only "normal" person around. And then there was Kai, which was the zombie/vampire version of Mr. Spock from TOS.
790, which was like a proto Bender (Futurama)..
Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote on 2021-10-01, 02:47:
In any case, back in 2017 I was proposed (yes, she proposed me first) by a woman who really looks like Lyta Alexander. Our relationship didn't last long though, but then I met another woman, and the rest is history.
Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote on 2021-10-01, 02:47:twiz11 wrote on 2021-09-30, 23:01:
Fiction of any kind = Non-fiction+time. Given enough time the fiction becomes real. Babylon 5 is just a human-generated fantasy, and I am just a person who tries to make it real. The best stories are those with no happy endings, because death is never a happy ending, it is a realistic ending.
This still counts as happy ending though, albeit rather depressing. But isn't it happy ending when our loved ones remember us as a good person?
I would say yes. Some people also speculate the way we live(d) could be more important than what we archived.
Say, if a society has noble goals, but fails to make all of them real (green energy, no need for money, social justice, vegetarism etc),
it might still be held in honour (will be remembered) by the people that will come past them.
By the way, that episode was recored by my dad years ago, along with the one(s) in which Sheridan wanished into light
and Delenn was sitting alone on her garden bench. He was moved to tears.
The closest episode DS9 had, as far as I remember at the moment, was The Sound of Her Voice.
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In what to one race is no time at all, another race can rise and fall..." - The Minstrel
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