Reply 140 of 150, by Hoping
ZellSF wrote on 2022-11-20, 19:50:
You connect a high current cable to your GPU. You connect a high current cable to your space heater. […]bloodem wrote on 2022-11-17, 15:33:
Space heaters are meant to radiate... heat. That's their sole purpose in life. :-) But, more importantly, space heaters are prea […]ZellSF wrote on 2022-11-17, 11:40:
I don't see the correlation. Is a 1000W space heater much more likely to fail than a 500W space heater? Will a 1000W space heater do more damage when it fails? A 25W electronic device can start a fire just fine.
Space heaters are meant to radiate... heat. That's their sole purpose in life. 😀
But, more importantly, space heaters are preassembled (and they are really not that complex to begin with), so there is nothing "DIY" about them. Even your average grandma can go to the store, buy one, come home, plug it in... Bottom line, the users don't have to connect any high current heating elements themselves, and they even come with a warning that mentions how only professionals should take them apart.
Since they are very simple appliances, there isn't much risk of fire either (unless used EXTREMELY carelessly). Worst case scenario, they fail short (at which point your home's circuit breakers will do their job).
On the other hand, 500+W video cards are part of the DIY PC building market, they are actually meant to be handled by hundreds of thousands or even millions of diferent hands, and those same hands need to connect some pretty high current cables themselves (not to mention that the card itself will then reside in a hot, enclosed case - with quite a bit of plastic parts surrounding it)... it's a recipe for disaster if you ask me.
You connect a high current cable to your GPU. You connect a high current cable to your space heater.
Space heaters are often surrounded by highly flammable stuff, which is way more dangerous than being surrounded by plastic.
But when space heaters fail and create fires, where do we place the blame? On the manufacturer's neglect. Not the amount of power they draw, nor the complexity of their design. That's ridiculous.
Exactly, if there is negligence in the design, it is the manufacturer's fault, and if the manufacturer asks for a premium price and there is a lack of quality, there is a problem and it is not energy consumption, it is the manufacturer's negligence.
Only that a premium price aggravates the offense to the buyer.
And that has nothing to do with the manufacturer being one or the other, let's be logical and not emotional.
Because all the manufacturers we know of have had problems over the years, some more serious than others.
What annoys me the most is that when we pay a premium price we expect premium quality and not that we find ourselves with a typical problem of the lowest quality products, such as a connector being able to burn just because it needs to be inserted half a millimeter more. It is as if the quality control had to be carried out by the users because this is something that can happen very frequently.
In my years repairing computers I have found ATX connectors not fully inserted because sometimes the motherboard bends down, and it seems that it has been fully inserted, but I don't remember burned ATX connectors.