RC Cars throws an error on startup with WIP37 or 38.

the d3d8 dll is frequently deleted by my antivirus (bitdefender), is there anything Dege can do to avoid it being detected as a virus?

Myloch wrote:

the d3d8 dll is frequently deleted by my antivirus (bitdefender), is there anything Dege can do to avoid it being detected as a virus?

Sure there is. Is it reasonable that a small developer working for free should spend his time creating workarounds for bugs in software that isn't even his? I'm going with no.

Myloch wrote:

the d3d8 dll is frequently deleted by my antivirus (bitdefender), is there anything Dege can do to avoid it being detected as a virus?

I got a better fix, Windows Defender! 🤣

MrEWhite wrote:

Myloch wrote:

the d3d8 dll is frequently deleted by my antivirus (bitdefender), is there anything Dege can do to avoid it being detected as a virus?

I got a better fix, Windows Defender! 🤣

I had Windows Defender detect a version of dgVoodoo2 on another computer (I don't use Windows Defender).

Better solution is either to A: figure out what to trust yourself or B: contact your AV company when you have doubts.

Hello, Dege and forum,
i'm a new to this board, but i wanted to ask if there's a possibility to implement a fix to 2002 FIFA World Cup game which fixes grass texture flickering on and off?

Well well...it seems this wrapper really doesn't like asian games 🙄
This time is "Hero 英熊本色"

MrEWhite wrote:

Myloch wrote:

the d3d8 dll is frequently deleted by my antivirus (bitdefender), is there anything Dege can do to avoid it being detected as a virus?

I got a better fix, Windows Defender! 🤣

Defender from Windows 10 1709 detects the whole WIP37 as malware and will delete it automatically every time you download it or open its directory:
Trojan:Win32/Tiggre!plock 😒
I've sent a FALSE POSITIVE report to MS using: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission let's see now...

EDIT: 24 hours later fixed by MS. Now is not detected as malware anymore

There are some problems with Win10 Fall Creators and fullscreen management by dgVoodoo 2.
Splinter Cell remains minimized (after the intro videos, in the menu screen). Toggling "Disable ALT+Enter...." makes the menu screen visible BUT in a window.

In the games EXE file properties, make sure the "Disable Fullscreen Optimizations" compatibility option is enabled, otherwise the game will use a hybrid display mode instead of proper Fullscreen Exclusive display mode.

Thanks!

EDIT: No difference in SC behaviour 🙁

I was lucky!
An MSFT guy kindly reported my Win FCU problem to the DirectX Team and I got in contact with the right person. I really appreciate the help I got from there.

What turned out:
- I was wrong, there is no problem with their occlusion algorhytm. Self occlusion occurs in previous Windows versions too (with reason) but they added an extra (lose-focus) logic to FCU.
- The real problem is present on dgVoodoo side. Or, I'd rather say, on application/game side. Some games like Splinter Cell do a certain thing that drives DXGI to force the rendering window from fullscreen back to windowed mode through the self-occlusion way. Those game run in fake fullscreen on Win versions prior to FCU (which is a problem in itself).

Lose-focus logic could be changed a little bit to keep the compatibility with the specific scenario that the dgVoodoo-case uncovered, and it MIGHT be fixed later. I managed to create a simple repro app to show the difference between CU and FCU (that's the current phase of our conversation).

On the other hand, now that I understand what the real problem is, I think I found a way to be compliant with DXGI. At least Splinter Cell now works fine on FCU. I also changed another thing that is related to window activating, that fixed NOLF on FCU.
Now dgVoodoo seems to work fine on FCU, but the thing is I didn't tested too many games, so I don't want to speak to soon.

Now I'm thinking on whether to patch 2.54 with some additional fixes from the aggregated ones or to fix some others and release a new version from the current state.

Good!

Myloch wrote:

the d3d8 dll is frequently deleted by my antivirus (bitdefender), is there anything Dege can do to avoid it being detected as a virus?

Same problem with avast sadly.

The more compatible the DirectX Team can make the O/S with old games, the better. Keep pressing them to implement the compatibility fix even if you end up not taking advantage of it.

Dege wrote:

I was lucky! An MSFT guy kindly reported my Win FCU problem to the DirectX Team and I got in contact with the right person. I re […]
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I was lucky!
An MSFT guy kindly reported my Win FCU problem to the DirectX Team and I got in contact with the right person. I really appreciate the help I got from there.

What turned out:
- I was wrong, there is no problem with their occlusion algorhytm. Self occlusion occurs in previous Windows versions too (with reason) but they added an extra (lose-focus) logic to FCU.
- The real problem is present on dgVoodoo side. Or, I'd rather say, on application/game side. Some games like Splinter Cell do a certain thing that drives DXGI to force the rendering window from fullscreen back to windowed mode through the self-occlusion way. Those game run in fake fullscreen on Win versions prior to FCU (which is a problem in itself).

Lose-focus logic could be changed a little bit to keep the compatibility with the specific scenario that the dgVoodoo-case uncovered, and it MIGHT be fixed later. I managed to create a simple repro app to show the difference between CU and FCU (that's the current phase of our conversation).

On the other hand, now that I understand what the real problem is, I think I found a way to be compliant with DXGI. At least Splinter Cell now works fine on FCU. I also changed another thing that is related to window activating, that fixed NOLF on FCU.
Now dgVoodoo seems to work fine on FCU, but the thing is I didn't tested too many games, so I don't want to speak to soon.

Now I'm thinking on whether to patch 2.54 with some additional fixes from the aggregated ones or to fix some others and release a new version from the current state.

MS fixes stuff and then it breaks again. I say dont count on them if you can.
Also Win10 might be an never ending source of problems. New update , new issues, new dev work. You need to consider this also. Bullet proof your code.😀(nice move with the debug layer)

Also from time to time i would like to know what you are working on . 😀
Do you use tweeter? Maybe we can create a new thread where you can share with the rest of us your status and what are you working on, if you do anywork. 😀

Also about SC, i have posted some pictures(from a person who commented on SC thread) did you manged to have a look at the issue?
Here's the issue : dgVoodoo 2 for DirectX 11 Missing shadows from the windows blinds.

Regards.

MS fixes stuff and then it breaks again. I say dont count on them if you can.

Everyone do that, including me... 😉
That's why intensive testing is always needed.

daniel_u wrote:

Also from time to time i would like to know what you are working on .

Well, I started too many things but I didn't have much time, especially in the recent months, resulting in laid aside things.
My workplace took unexpectedly too much time from me this year. That's why I wasn't responsive, even for PMs. Sorry to everyone for that.

daniel_u wrote:

Also about SC, i have posted some pictures(from a person who commented on SC thread) did you manged to have a look at the issue?

Yes, I saw that issue but I didn't debug it yet.

A new WIP:

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WIP39:
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- DX Surface locking incompatibility, fixed (The Mystery of the Druids)
- Minor D3D/D3D8 bugs, D3D11 leaks fixed (my own tests)
- Some additional improvement in the Debug Layer
- Fixing 24 bit surface creation issue in DDraw (Blade Of Darkness, lava)
- Fixing fullscreen issue which causes more trouble than 'going into fake fullscreen' on Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (e.g. Splinter Cell)
- Fixes for scaled output done by the wrapper ('Stretched, * AR' and 'Centered, AR' modes with larger than max of display-supported output images)
- Possibility of separate values for ImageScaleFactor for horizontal/vertical directions
- Option for disabling the default and classic resolutions for DirectX
- LfbWriteRegion bug in Glide, fixed (Blade of Darkness, background images)
- Support for partial Z-buffer copy in DirectDraw (The Revenant)
- Fixing range based fog hw calculations (The Chosen: Well of Souls)
- D3D8 software vertex processing incompatibility, fixed (Micro Commandos)

http://dege.fw.hu/temp/dgVoodooWIP39.zip

Version with the Debug Layer:
http://dege.fw.hu/temp/dgVoodooWIP39_dbg.zip

Will test!

About Blade Of Darkness.....did you tackle the intro video codec issue?