VOGONS


Reply 40 of 54, by Warlord

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
gaffa2002 wrote on 2021-04-13, 12:39:
xcomcmdr wrote on 2021-04-13, 10:21:

This is very old news from way way before it was released on Steam... ?

Maybe, but this is the developer’s site. I mean, this is the first place they would want to update unless they are OK with hurting their own sales...
Anyway, I’ll consider this game as not freeware for now.

Have no idea how anyone can read that as not freeware. Their reason for pulling a downloads off their site was you can have the game for free but "we are not paying webhosting fees so you can download it from us..." A quick wayback search of the site before they pulled the download clearly states its free and they provide a link. Not sure why the requirement of a free game mean that the developer has to give free downloads from their site They clearly say if you can find it for download for free do so.

https://web.archive.org/web/20001109222900/ht … w/download.html

Reply 41 of 54, by xcomcmdr

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

They are selling it on steam now, it's not freeware anymore. This statement was there way before and has nothing to do with it.

That's how I see it. They have a steam forum page. The best way to know is to ask them there.

Reply 42 of 54, by konc

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

I know I'm late to the party and the list is closed as per the first post, just wanted to say thank you for this nice compilation. I learned about Igor: Objective Uikokahonia and killed some time playing through it. Also excellent installation interface, minimal and does the job as it should.

Some notable candidates in case you ever reconsider or update the list:
Galactix https://www.mobygames.com/game/galactix
Jazz Jackrabbit: Holiday Hare games https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/jazz-jackr … liday-hare-1994
Fracas https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/fracas_
Kroz series
Mario & Luigi https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/mario-luigi
The Black Cauldron https://www.mobygames.com/game/black-cauldron

Reply 43 of 54, by gaffa2002

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
MrD wrote on 2021-04-18, 21:58:

Surprised nobody suggested Amulets and Armor!

Never heard of this game, but now that I saw it, I just had to add it to the list.
Unfortunately the game is pretty big in size, so I had to remove Shadow Warrior (as this game has no music and was kinda incomplete) in order to add it.

konc wrote on 2021-04-19, 20:04:
I know I'm late to the party and the list is closed as per the first post, just wanted to say thank you for this nice compilatio […]
Show full quote

I know I'm late to the party and the list is closed as per the first post, just wanted to say thank you for this nice compilation. I learned about Igor: Objective Uikokahonia and killed some time playing through it. Also excellent installation interface, minimal and does the job as it should.

Some notable candidates in case you ever reconsider or update the list:
Galactix https://www.mobygames.com/game/galactix
Jazz Jackrabbit: Holiday Hare games https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/jazz-jackr … liday-hare-1994
Fracas https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/fracas_
Kroz series
Mario & Luigi https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/mario-luigi
The Black Cauldron https://www.mobygames.com/game/black-cauldron

As for Galatix, I couldn't confirm it was freeware. Jazz Holiday Hare games are also shareware so I'll add them as part of another CD project specific for shareware. I really liked Black Cauldron and Fracas so they were also added.

In summary, the first post was updated with a new version which replaces Shadow Warrior by Amulets and Armor and also includes Black Cauldron and Fracas. Anyway, the older version is still available if anyone prefers it
Next step will be... shareware games

Thanks once again! And feel free to upload and distribute 😀

LO-RES, HI-FUN

My DOS/ Win98 PC specs

EP-7KXA Motherboard
Athlon Thunderbird 750mhz
256Mb PC100 RAM
Geforce 4 MX440 64MB AGP
Sound Blaster AWE 64 CT4500 (ISA)
32GB HDD

Reply 44 of 54, by konc

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
gaffa2002 wrote on 2021-04-22, 14:16:

As for Galatix, I couldn't confirm it was freeware.

This is a capture from wayback machine, "Galactix was our very first game released back in 1992, and it is now Freeware "
v1.5 says "free shareware" but it's the full game and cannot be registered (press R on the main menu)
https://web.archive.org/web/20000302140420/ht … ctix/index.html

Reply 45 of 54, by gaffa2002

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
konc wrote on 2021-04-22, 14:47:
This is a capture from wayback machine, "Galactix was our very first game released back in 1992, and it is now Freeware " v1.5 […]
Show full quote
gaffa2002 wrote on 2021-04-22, 14:16:

As for Galatix, I couldn't confirm it was freeware.

This is a capture from wayback machine, "Galactix was our very first game released back in 1992, and it is now Freeware "
v1.5 says "free shareware" but it's the full game and cannot be registered (press R on the main menu)
https://web.archive.org/web/20000302140420/ht … ctix/index.html

Great, thanks!
Ok, now I really don’t know what to do with this game... I could either add it to this compilation or add it to the shareware compilation I’m planning to make. My understanding is that the developer created a special shareware version with all levels instead of just releasing the existing registered version as is. Guess I’ll add it to the shareware CD as I’m having trouble filling it.

LO-RES, HI-FUN

My DOS/ Win98 PC specs

EP-7KXA Motherboard
Athlon Thunderbird 750mhz
256Mb PC100 RAM
Geforce 4 MX440 64MB AGP
Sound Blaster AWE 64 CT4500 (ISA)
32GB HDD

Reply 46 of 54, by MrFlibble

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
xcomcmdr wrote on 2021-04-13, 20:41:

- Igor : objective Uikokahonia

Apologies for bumping, I just stumbled upon this thread while looking for something else. I've never heard of Igor having become a freeware game.

I just looked it up, the Wikipedia entry suggests that the freeware release was announced in 2007 here:

Das erste Pendulo-Spiel Igor: Objective Uikokahonia wird außerdem ab sofort als Freeware verbreitet.

"Additionally, Pendulo's first game, Igor, is from now on distributed as freeware."

The page links to this forum discussion with the developers, which ends with an extremely ambiguous reply.

But a different thread acts as the official announcement. The developers provided no official downloads though, as it seems.

DOS Games Archive | Free open source games | RGB Classic Games

Reply 47 of 54, by gaffa2002

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
MrFlibble wrote on 2021-08-25, 14:25:
Apologies for bumping, I just stumbled upon this thread while looking for something else. I've never heard of Igor having become […]
Show full quote
xcomcmdr wrote on 2021-04-13, 20:41:

- Igor : objective Uikokahonia

Apologies for bumping, I just stumbled upon this thread while looking for something else. I've never heard of Igor having become a freeware game.

I just looked it up, the Wikipedia entry suggests that the freeware release was announced in 2007 here:

Das erste Pendulo-Spiel Igor: Objective Uikokahonia wird außerdem ab sofort als Freeware verbreitet.

"Additionally, Pendulo's first game, Igor, is from now on distributed as freeware."

The page links to this forum discussion with the developers, which ends with an extremely ambiguous reply.

But a different thread acts as the official announcement. The developers provided no official downloads though, as it seems.

Yeah, creating a freeware CD was a lot of trouble due to the lack of information on current status of each game. Another concern is that the developer can make a game freeware at some point, but then start selling it again for some reason. The freeware CD I made seems to be "legal" so far, but it's not guaranteed to remain like that for long.
I just uploaded another CD project, this time with shareware/demos only, a lot of work to fill 700mb of DOS games, but at least no need to worry with legality so much.
DOS Shareware Collection CD

LO-RES, HI-FUN

My DOS/ Win98 PC specs

EP-7KXA Motherboard
Athlon Thunderbird 750mhz
256Mb PC100 RAM
Geforce 4 MX440 64MB AGP
Sound Blaster AWE 64 CT4500 (ISA)
32GB HDD

Reply 48 of 54, by weedeewee

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

By stumbling on this thread I wanted to download the cd yet found myself a bit saddened by the fact that the download host requires a subscription since the file is archived.

Reply 49 of 54, by gaffa2002

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
weedeewee wrote on 2021-08-25, 19:14:

By stumbling on this thread I wanted to download the cd yet found myself a bit saddened by the fact that the download host requires a subscription since the file is archived.

Don't be sad, I re-uploaded it 😀:
https://easyupload.io/h7vmjn
Note that everyone is free to distribute and upload it anywhere as the link will expire in 30 days.

LO-RES, HI-FUN

My DOS/ Win98 PC specs

EP-7KXA Motherboard
Athlon Thunderbird 750mhz
256Mb PC100 RAM
Geforce 4 MX440 64MB AGP
Sound Blaster AWE 64 CT4500 (ISA)
32GB HDD

Reply 50 of 54, by weedeewee

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
gaffa2002 wrote on 2021-08-25, 20:00:
Don't be sad, I re-uploaded it :): https://easyupload.io/h7vmjn Note that everyone is free to distribute and upload it anywhere […]
Show full quote
weedeewee wrote on 2021-08-25, 19:14:

By stumbling on this thread I wanted to download the cd yet found myself a bit saddened by the fact that the download host requires a subscription since the file is archived.

Don't be sad, I re-uploaded it 😀:
https://easyupload.io/h7vmjn
Note that everyone is free to distribute and upload it anywhere as the link will expire in 30 days.

Many Cheers & Jubilations !

Reply 51 of 54, by MrFlibble

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
gaffa2002 wrote on 2021-08-25, 19:10:

Yeah, creating a freeware CD was a lot of trouble due to the lack of information on current status of each game. Another concern is that the developer can make a game freeware at some point, but then start selling it again for some reason. The freeware CD I made seems to be "legal" so far, but it's not guaranteed to remain like that for long.

Well, some games are guaranteed to never revert to commercial distribution, at least in a way that could preclude further distribution of the free release, e.g. completely GPL'd stuff.

There are also plenty of games that have always been free as well.

Not to mention that a programme being shareware or demo does not guarantee anything either way. Recently an eager retro game selling company that I will not name demanded to take down free demos of their recently acquired line-up, demos that have been out there for ages and originally come from the developers or first publishers of said games. Even the proper shareware licenses which you can find in Apogee/3DR or Epic MegaGames shareware titles include a clause that the copyright holder reserves the right to revoke the license or any of its terms at any time.

DOS Games Archive | Free open source games | RGB Classic Games

Reply 52 of 54, by gaffa2002

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

Quick update, the ISO was added to Archive.org, this version includes an updated Readme.txt and also a splash screen before the installer opens.
https://archive.org/details/gaffa-dos-shareware-pack

MrFlibble wrote on 2021-08-26, 09:29:

Well, some games are guaranteed to never revert to commercial distribution, at least in a way that could preclude further distribution of the free release, e.g. completely GPL'd stuff.

There are also plenty of games that have always been free as well.

Not to mention that a programme being shareware or demo does not guarantee anything either way. Recently an eager retro game selling company that I will not name demanded to take down free demos of their recently acquired line-up, demos that have been out there for ages and originally come from the developers or first publishers of said games. Even the proper shareware licenses which you can find in Apogee/3DR or Epic MegaGames shareware titles include a clause that the copyright holder reserves the right to revoke the license or any of its terms at any time.

Unfortunately, the risk will be always there... 🙁

LO-RES, HI-FUN

My DOS/ Win98 PC specs

EP-7KXA Motherboard
Athlon Thunderbird 750mhz
256Mb PC100 RAM
Geforce 4 MX440 64MB AGP
Sound Blaster AWE 64 CT4500 (ISA)
32GB HDD

Reply 53 of 54, by Yoghoo

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Tried both of the CD's (freeware+shareware) and they worked perfectly. Thanks for that!

Found 1 little "bug". There are a couple of lines in the install.bat which read "REM---" without a space between REM and the minus signs. This produces unknown command errors. It happens very quickly so it won't be noticed a lot I guess. 😀

Reply 54 of 54, by gaffa2002

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
Yoghoo wrote on 2021-08-27, 18:00:

Tried both of the CD's (freeware+shareware) and they worked perfectly. Thanks for that!

Found 1 little "bug". There are a couple of lines in the install.bat which read "REM---" without a space between REM and the minus signs. This produces unknown command errors. It happens very quickly so it won't be noticed a lot I guess. 😀

Oh crap... now that I noticed it, I can never un-notice it again!
Fixed the spacing and added @ECHO OFF so installation looks cleaner. Now I'm uploading the new ISOs back to archive.org (it should take a while).
Thanks for pointing it out 😀

EDIT: Upload complete. Newest version should be available on Archive.org

LO-RES, HI-FUN

My DOS/ Win98 PC specs

EP-7KXA Motherboard
Athlon Thunderbird 750mhz
256Mb PC100 RAM
Geforce 4 MX440 64MB AGP
Sound Blaster AWE 64 CT4500 (ISA)
32GB HDD