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First post, by scroeffie

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iam trying to add my 1x speed mitsumi drive to this custom menu i downloaded from phils.com i think was the website
is this possible the mistumi drive works perfect with out the custom menu i added some lines not shure if i did it correct

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Reply 1 of 58, by weedeewee

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looking at your config.sys...
There's some 'E's missing on the mscdex.Ex part,
and NOwhere in the photo's you posted of the config.sys is the actual mitsumi driver loaded.

Just trying to load mscdex will give you an error message.

edit: looking again, you're trying to load mscdex as the device driver, which is just plain wrong.

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Reply 2 of 58, by scroeffie

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wich do i need to at the bin or the dev folder ?

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Reply 4 of 58, by weedeewee

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it is not.

you need something like an MTMCDE.SYS or MTMCDS.SYS or similar and appropriate for your mitsumi 1x cdrom.

edit: maybe this thread will help https://www.vcfed.org/forum/forum/genre ... lp-Needed=

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Reply 5 of 58, by scroeffie

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c:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS is all ik can find
so wich line do i remove and where to add this

oke the drivers are loading now but when i type in D: nothing happens

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Reply 6 of 58, by weedeewee

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you just posted mostly the same photos.

You are trying to load MSCDEX.EX & MSCDEX.EXE as the device driver in config.sys. That should be the c:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS ! and it will probably require some more parameters, like IO & DMA.

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Reply 7 of 58, by Gmlb256

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weedeewee wrote on 2021-09-16, 11:31:

There's some 'E's missing on the mscdex.Ex part,

The /E parameter only applies if running with an expanded memory manager such EMM386.

weedeewee wrote on 2021-09-16, 11:31:

edit: looking again, you're trying to load mscdex as the device driver, which is just plain wrong.

One can use INSTALL instead of DEVICE on CONFIG.SYS for this purpose. Otherwise putting this on AUTOEXEC.BAT is the right way.

scroeffie wrote on 2021-09-16, 12:06:

c:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS is all ik can find
so wich line do i remove and where to add this

For C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS you have to enter the following on CONFIG.SYS prior MSCDEX.

DEVICE=C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001
REM Use the /E parameter for the expanded memory manager configurations only
INSTALLHIGH=C:\BIN\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /M:10
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Reply 8 of 58, by weedeewee

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Gmlb256 wrote on 2021-09-16, 12:13:
The /E parameter only applies if running with an expanded memory manager such EMM386. […]
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weedeewee wrote on 2021-09-16, 11:31:

There's some 'E's missing on the mscdex.Ex part,

The /E parameter only applies if running with an expanded memory manager such EMM386.

weedeewee wrote on 2021-09-16, 11:31:

edit: looking again, you're trying to load mscdex as the device driver, which is just plain wrong.

One can use INSTALL instead of DEVICE on CONFIG.SYS for this purpose. Otherwise putting this on AUTOEXEC.BAT is the right way.

scroeffie wrote on 2021-09-16, 12:06:

c:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS is all ik can find
so wich line do i remove and where to add this

For C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS you have to enter the following on CONFIG.SYS prior before MSCDEX.

DEVICE=C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001
REM Use the /E parameter for the expanded memory manager configurations only
INSTALL=C:\BIN\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /M:10

might want to add the parameters for alternate IO/DMA :-p
and the missing E was referring to the .exE ! though the whole line doesn't matter anyway there.

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Reply 10 of 58, by weedeewee

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scroeffie wrote on 2021-09-16, 12:16:

do i add this also to the autoexec file > DEVICE=C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001

No, that should be in the CONFIG.SYS.

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Reply 11 of 58, by Gmlb256

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weedeewee wrote on 2021-09-16, 12:16:

might want to add the parameters for alternate IO/DMA :-p

Yep, but it depends if he's using the CD ports from a sound card or not. That Mitsumi drive likely uses a proprietary port. 😜

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Reply 12 of 58, by weedeewee

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Gmlb256 wrote on 2021-09-16, 12:22:
weedeewee wrote on 2021-09-16, 12:16:

might want to add the parameters for alternate IO/DMA :-p

Yep, but it depends if he's using the CD ports from a sound card or not. That Mitsumi drive likely uses a proprietary port. 😜

plenty of soundcards around that had all those proprietary ports 😜

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Reply 13 of 58, by scroeffie

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iam confused now 😀 let me explain the mistumi drive works perfect with out the custom menu
when i add the custom menu it stops working because the drivers are not loaded
wich lines do i add to the config
and wich lines to the autoexec

Reply 14 of 58, by Gmlb256

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Which custom menu actually?

Phil's CONFIG.SYS maxes out the amount of menus allowed.

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Reply 16 of 58, by weedeewee

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scroeffie wrote on 2021-09-16, 12:24:
iam confused now :) let me explain the mistumi drive works perfect with out the custom menu when i add the custom menu it stop […]
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iam confused now 😀 let me explain the mistumi drive works perfect with out the custom menu
when i add the custom menu it stops working because the drivers are not loaded
wich lines do i add to the config
and wich lines to the autoexec

The photo of the config.sys you showed does not load the mitsumi driver.

You made an error in the config.sys by trying to do this :
DEVICEHIGH=C:\BIN\MSCDEX.EX /D:MSCD001 /M:10

it should be this :

DEVICE=C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001

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Reply 17 of 58, by Gmlb256

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The first three options have the CD-ROM support (EMC, XMC and CMC). The other ones doesn't have them for more conventional (and upper) memory.

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Reply 18 of 58, by weedeewee

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Frakking Phil. We should get paid to be his helpdesk puppets. 🤣

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Reply 19 of 58, by scroeffie

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D: wont work

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