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First post, by FFXIhealer

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Ok, so I'm on the hunt for the original DOS program files (NOT the WAD files, I have those already from a LONG time ago and from the Win9x versions of the game) to run on my retro systems. Specifically because the Win9x versions don't really run all that well on a 200MHz Pentium system, but will run fantastic in the original DOS. I've bought the games in the past back in those days (~1997-ish), but have lost the actual files to time. I'm only recently getting back into all of this.

If this counts to the mods as "software piracy", then I apologize and I will drop my questions/request and I will fully understand if the thread is locked and/or deleted. I'm not trying to pirate software. I'm just trying to find the Doom and Doom2 software files WITHOUT DOSBox and WITHOUT the Windows9x components, etc. I'm talking the old old old original DOS stuff, because I want it to run natively on the systems. All the stuff I've been able to find on-line have been the Win9x files/packages.

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Reply 1 of 7, by BitWrangler

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I believe for Doom it is the original levels WAD file that is not distributable, but the executable is the same as the DOS shareware version. So if you've got the official wad, just install shareware, copy the full version wad over it and you should be good to go. Not sure what to do about Doom2 though.

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Reply 2 of 7, by dr.zeissler

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They changed the soundengine from the early Doom1 to the later Doom1 (1.66..) and used it in Doom2 too.
The early soundengine had no problem with ESS-Solo1 in plain Dos on intel-Chipset, the later one never worked on that soundcard in such a setup.

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Reply 3 of 7, by Joseph_Joestar

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FFXIhealer wrote on 2021-11-21, 15:54:

All the stuff I've been able to find on-line have been the Win9x files/packages.

GOG has the DOS version of Ultimate Doom: https://www.gog.com/game/the_ultimate_doom

It's packaged with DOSBox, but getting it to your retro PC is pretty easy. Simply install the game on your modern system, then copy the installation folder over to your retro rig. Remember to use 8 characters or less for the folder name. Before that, you may want to delete any files longer than the standard 8+3 character limit. These are not needed for running the game under actual DOS.

I've been playing this version of the game on my Pentium MMX system without any issues.

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Reply 4 of 7, by flynnsbit

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FastDoom might be a better option especially if you already have your retail WAD files for Doom/Doom2. The compiled exe's are on github... https://github.com/viti95/FastDoom/releases

 Supported WADS
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The supported wads are the following:
* DOOM.WAD -> DOOM Registered (3 episodes)
* DOOM1.WAD -> DOOM Shareware (1 episode)
* DOOMU.WAD -> Ultimate DOOM (4 episodes)
* DOOM2.WAD -> DOOM II
* PLUTONIA.WAD -> Final DOOM The Plutonia Experiment
* TNT.WAD -> Final DOOM TNT Evilution

Reply 5 of 7, by The Serpent Rider

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but the executable is the same as the DOS shareware version

Doom Shareware which commonly can be found today is using Doom II updated engine v1.9.

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Reply 6 of 7, by chinny22

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dr.zeissler wrote on 2021-11-21, 16:47:

They changed the soundengine from the early Doom1 to the later Doom1 (1.66..) and used it in Doom2 too.
The early soundengine had no problem with ESS-Solo1 in plain Dos on intel-Chipset, the later one never worked on that soundcard in such a setup.

A patch exists to downgrade 1.9 to to v1.1 https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/utils/exe_edit/downgrd
I used it for the 3 screen -node switch but it also reverts map changes back to 1.1
Maybe it also downgrades the soundengine?

Reply 7 of 7, by FFXIhealer

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Well, this mini-project is now going to have to wait. My Pentium 1 Win95 system now won't boot due to some driver issues regarding the IDE ports on the motherboard. Looks like a fresh re-install is in my future, before I can even begin to try to put games on it.

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