Duke3D + AWE64 - no music? \ VOGONS

Reply 1 of 16, by derSammler

Posted on 2018-08-03, 18:32

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AWEUTIL must be loaded in autoexec.bat to get wavetable music under DOS.

Reply 2 of 16, by gladders

Posted on 2018-08-03, 18:39

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It is.

Reply 3 of 16, by Tiido

Posted on 2018-08-03, 18:47

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There's a jumper on the AWE64 card somewhere near the bottom, it must be set to get MIDI stuff going.

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Reply 4 of 16, by gladders

Posted on 2018-08-03, 19:36

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Ok, I figured out I need to set the switches in Autoexec.bat to get General Midi working. Now, I get music in the test if I use AWE32, but launching the game says AWE32 not detected.

Using General Midi however just spits out granular error messages all over the screen.

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Posted on 2018-08-03, 22:36

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Nobody got any input?

Reply 6 of 16, by Stretch

Posted on 2018-08-04, 01:32

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Post the contents of your autoexec.bat, config.sys, ctmix.cfg, ctpnp.cfg, and duke3d.cfg.

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Reply 7 of 16, by dr_st

Posted on 2018-08-04, 05:55

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1. Run AWEUTIL /S in Autoexec.bat to initialize the music portion of the card.
2. Choose AWE32 in the games; do not choose General MIDI - this requires emulation and the emulation driver in DOS is buggy and limited.
3. Are you sure yours is a real AWE64 and not a "neutered" kind like shown here?

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Reply 8 of 16, by gladders

Posted on 2018-08-04, 06:50

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dr_st wrote:
1. Run AWEUTIL /S in Autoexec.bat to initialize the music portion of the card.

Already done. I'm about to post the contents of the files requested above.

2. Choose AWE32 in the games; do not choose General MIDI - this requires emulation and the emulation driver in DOS is buggy and limited.

As I said above, AWE32 is now recognised in setup, but on launching the game it says it's not detected and doesn't launch. Music is fine in Windows though.

3. Are you sure yours is a real AWE64 and not a "neutered" kind like shown here?

It's a 4520 but has 'AWE64' on the PCB. The fact that music works in Windows (although sound doesn't) suggests to me it's the real deal.

Reply 9 of 16, by gladders

Posted on 2018-08-04, 06:53

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Stretch wrote:
Post the contents of your autoexec.bat, config.sys, ctmix.cfg, ctpnp.cfg, and duke3d.cfg.

AUTOEXEC.BAT:

1SET SOUND=C:\SB16
2LH C:\DOS\SHARE.EXE /L:100
3SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 E620 T6
4SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E MODE:0
5SET CTCM=C:\SB16
6LH C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /V /D:OEMC001 /L:D
7LH C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S /W=C:\WIN3
8LH C:\SB16\AWEUTIL /EM:GM /R:030 /C:030
9LH C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q
10LH C:\SB16\CTCU.EXE /S /W=C:\WIN3
11Rem LH C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X
12@ECHO OFF
13PROMPT $p$g
14PATH C:\WIN3;C:\DOS
15SET MSINPUT=C:\MSINPUT
16C:\MSINPUT\MOUSE\MOUSE.EXE /Q
17SET TEMP=C:\DOS
18MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((437) C:\DOS\EGA.CPI)
19MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=437

CONFIG.SYS:

1DOS=HIGH,UMB
2DEVICEHIGH=C:\SB16\CTCM.EXE
3DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
4DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF /Q
5LASTDRIVE=E
6DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDPRO\VIDE-CDD.SYS /D:OEMC001
7COUNTRY=044,,C:\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
8DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\DISPLAY.SYS CON=(EGA,,1)
9FILES=30
10STACKS=9,256
11FILES=40

CTMIX.CFG:

1[PRESET]
2/MA:255;255;50
3/VO:255;255;50
4/MI:204;204;50
5/CD:204;204;50
6/LI:204;204;50
7/MIC:0
8/SP:204
9/TR:0;0;50
10/BA:242;242;50
11/IPL:MIC+ CDR- CDL+ LIR- LIL+ MIR- MIL+ 
12/IPR:MIC+ CDR+ CDL- LIR+ LIL- MIR+ MIL- 
13/OPS:MIC- CDR+ CDL+ LIR- LIL-
14/AGC:+
15/IPG:2,2
16/OPG:2,2
17[LOAD]
18/MA:248;248;50
19/VO:248;248;50
20/MI:200;200;50
21/CD:200;200;50
22/LI:200;200;50
23/MIC:0
24/SP:200
25/TR:0;0;50
26/BA:240;240;50

CTPNP.CFG:

1[PNP]
2ReadPort=20b
3MaxCSN=255
4BypassPnPOS=0
5
6[EXCLUDE]
7Exclude_Port=
8Exclude_Irq=
9Exclude_Dma=
10Exclude_32Mem=
11
12[SB16]
13Disable=0
14Csn=1
15CardId=CTL00c5
16Serial=15bbfa65
17LogDev=0
18Port0=220
19Port1=330
20Port2=388
21Irq0=5
22Dma0=1
23Dma1=5
24
25[GAMEPORT]
26Disable=0
27Csn=1
28CardId=CTL00c5
29Serial=15bbfa65
30LogDev=1
31Port0=200
32
33[AWE]
34Disable=0
35Csn=1
36CardId=CTL00c5
37Serial=15bbfa65
38LogDev=2
39Port0=620
40Port1=a20
41Port2=e20

DUKE3D.CFG:

1[Setup]
2;Setup File for Duke Nukem 3D
3SetupVersion = "1.4"
4; 
5; 
6[Screen Setup]
7; 
8; 
9;ScreenMode
10; - Chained - 0
11; - Vesa 2.0 - 1
12; - Screen Buffered - 2
13; - Tseng optimized - 3
14; - Paradise optimized - 4
15; - S3 optimized - 5
16; - RedBlue Stereo - 7
17; - Crystal Eyes - 6
18; 
19;ScreenWidth passed to engine
20; 
21;ScreenHeight passed to engine
22; 
23; 
24ScreenMode = 2
25ScreenWidth = 320
26ScreenHeight = 200
27; 
28; 
29Shadows = 1
30Password = "SZWED"
31Detail = 1
32Tilt = 1
33Messages = 1
34Out = 1
35ScreenSize = 8
36ScreenGamma = 16
37[Sound Setup]
38; 
39; 
40FXDevice = 0
41MusicDevice = 6
42FXVolume = 228
43MusicVolume = 255
44NumVoices = 8
45NumChannels = 2
46NumBits = 16
47MixRate = 16000
48MidiPort = 0x330
49BlasterAddress = 0x220
50BlasterType = 6
51BlasterInterrupt = 5
52BlasterDma8 = 1
53BlasterDma16 = 5
54BlasterEmu = 0x680
55ReverseStereo = 1
56; 
57; 
58SoundToggle = 1
59VoiceToggle = 1
60AmbienceToggle = 1

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61MusicToggle = 1
62[KeyDefinitions]
63; 
64; 
65Move_Forward = "Up" "Kpad8"
66Move_Backward = "Down" "Kpad2"
67Turn_Left = "Left" "Kpad4"
68Turn_Right = "Right" "KPad6"
69Strafe = "LAlt" "RAlt"
70Fire = "RCtrl" "LCtrl"
71Open = "Space" ""
72Run = "/" "LShift"
73AutoRun = "CapLck" ""
74Jump = "Z" "/"
75Crouch = "X" ""
76Look_Up = "PgUp" "Kpad9"
77Look_Down = "PgDn" "Kpad3"
78Look_Left = "Insert" "Kpad0"
79Look_Right = "Delete" "Kpad."
80Strafe_Left = "," ""
81Strafe_Right = "." ""
82Aim_Up = "Home" "KPad7"
83Aim_Down = "End" "Kpad1"
84Weapon_1 = "1" ""
85Weapon_2 = "2" ""
86Weapon_3 = "3" ""
87Weapon_4 = "4" ""
88Weapon_5 = "5" ""
89Weapon_6 = "6" ""
90Weapon_7 = "7" ""
91Weapon_8 = "8" ""
92Weapon_9 = "9" ""
93Weapon_10 = "0" ""
94Inventory = "Enter" "KpdEnt"
95Inventory_Left = "[" ""
96Inventory_Right = "]" ""
97Holo_Duke = "H" ""
98Jetpack = "J" ""
99NightVision = "N" ""
100MedKit = "M" ""
101TurnAround = "BakSpc" ""
102SendMessage = "T" ""
103Map = "Tab" ""
104Shrink_Screen = "-" "Kpad-"
105Enlarge_Screen = "=" "Kpad+"
106Center_View = "KPad5" ""
107Holster_Weapon = "ScrLck" ""
108Show_Opponents_Weapon = "W" ""
109Map_Follow_Mode = "F" ""
110See_Coop_View = "K" ""
111Mouse_Aiming = "U" ""
112Toggle_Crosshair = "I" ""
113Steroids = "R" ""
114Quick_Kick = "`" ""
115Next_Weapon = "'" ""
116Previous_Weapon = ";" ""
117; 
118; 
119[Controls]
120; 
121; 
122;Controls
123; 
124;ControllerType
125; - Keyboard                  - 0
126; - Keyboard and Mouse        - 1
127; - Keyboard and Joystick     - 2
128; - Keyboard and Gamepad      - 4
129; - Keyboard and External     - 3
130; - Keyboard and FlightStick  - 5
131; - Keyboard and ThrustMaster - 6
132; 
133; 
134ControllerType = 0
135JoystickPort = 0
136MouseSensitivity = 68608
137ExternalFilename = "EXTERNAL.EXE"
138EnableRudder = 0
139MouseAiming = 1
140MouseAimingFlipped = 1
141MouseButton0 = "Fire"
142MouseButtonClicked0 = ""
143MouseButton1 = "Holster_Weapon"
144MouseButtonClicked1 = "Open"
145MouseButton2 = "Move_Forward"
146MouseButtonClicked2 = ""
147JoystickButton0 = "Fire"
148JoystickButtonClicked0 = ""
149JoystickButton1 = "Strafe"
150JoystickButtonClicked1 = "Inventory"
151JoystickButton2 = "Run"
152JoystickButtonClicked2 = "Jump"
153JoystickButton3 = "Open"
154JoystickButtonClicked3 = "Crouch"
155JoystickButton4 = "Aim_Down"
156JoystickButtonClicked4 = ""
157JoystickButton5 = "Look_Right"
158JoystickButtonClicked5 = ""
159JoystickButton6 = "Aim_Up"
160JoystickButtonClicked6 = ""
161JoystickButton7 = "Look_Left"
162JoystickButtonClicked7 = ""
163MouseAnalogAxes0 = "analog_turning"
164MouseDigitalAxes0_0 = ""
165MouseDigitalAxes0_1 = ""
166MouseAnalogScale0 = 65536
167MouseAnalogAxes1 = "analog_moving"
168MouseDigitalAxes1_0 = ""
169MouseDigitalAxes1_1 = ""
170MouseAnalogScale1 = 65536
171JoystickAnalogAxes0 = "analog_turning"
172JoystickDigitalAxes0_0 = ""
173JoystickDigitalAxes0_1 = ""
174JoystickAnalogScale0 = 65536
175JoystickAnalogAxes1 = "analog_moving"
176JoystickDigitalAxes1_0 = ""
177JoystickDigitalAxes1_1 = ""
178JoystickAnalogScale1 = 65536
179JoystickAnalogAxes2 = "analog_strafing"
180JoystickDigitalAxes2_0 = ""
181JoystickDigitalAxes2_1 = ""
182JoystickAnalogScale2 = 65536
183JoystickAnalogAxes3 = ""
184JoystickDigitalAxes3_0 = "Run"
185JoystickDigitalAxes3_1 = ""
186JoystickAnalogScale3 = 65536
187GamePadDigitalAxes0_0 = "Turn_Left"
188GamePadDigitalAxes0_1 = "Turn_Right"
189GamePadDigitalAxes1_0 = "Move_Forward"
190GamePadDigitalAxes1_1 = "Move_Backward"
191; 
192; 
193GameMouseAiming = 0
194AimingFlag = 0
195[Comm Setup]
196; 
197; 
198ComPort = 2
199IrqNumber = ~
200UartAddress = ~
201PortSpeed = 9600
202ToneDial = 1
203SocketNumber = ~
204NumberPlayers = 2
205ModemName = ""
206InitString = "ATZ"
207HangupString = "ATH0=0"
208DialoutString = ""
209PlayerName = "Cobra"
210RTSName = "DUKE.RTS"
211RTSPath = ".\"
212UserPath = ".\"
213PhoneNumber = ""
214ConnectType = 0
215CommbatMacro#0 = "An inspiration for birth control."
216CommbatMacro#1 = "You're gonna die for that!"
217CommbatMacro#2 = "It hurts to be you."
218CommbatMacro#3 = "Lucky Son of a Bitch."
219CommbatMacro#4 = "Hmmm....Payback time."
220CommbatMacro#5 = "You bottom dwelling scum sucker."
221CommbatMacro#6 = "Damn, you're ugly."
222CommbatMacro#7 = "Ha ha ha...Wasted!"
223CommbatMacro#8 = "You suck!"
224CommbatMacro#9 = "AARRRGHHHHH!!!"
225PhoneName#0 = ""
226PhoneNumber#0 = ""
227PhoneName#1 = ""
228PhoneNumber#1 = ""
229PhoneName#2 = ""
230PhoneNumber#2 = ""
231PhoneName#3 = ""
232PhoneNumber#3 = ""
233PhoneName#4 = ""
234PhoneNumber#4 = ""
235PhoneName#5 = ""
236PhoneNumber#5 = ""
237PhoneName#6 = ""
238PhoneNumber#6 = ""
239PhoneName#7 = ""
240PhoneNumber#7 = ""
241PhoneName#8 = ""
242PhoneNumber#8 = ""
243PhoneName#9 = ""
244PhoneNumber#9 = ""
245PhoneName#10 = ""
246PhoneNumber#10 = ""
247PhoneName#11 = ""
248PhoneNumber#11 = ""
249PhoneName#12 = ""
250PhoneNumber#12 = ""
251PhoneName#13 = ""
252PhoneNumber#13 = ""
253PhoneName#14 = ""
254PhoneNumber#14 = ""
255PhoneName#15 = ""
256PhoneNumber#15 = ""
257[Misc]
258Executions = 40
259RunMode = 0
260Crosshairs = 1
261WeaponChoice0 = 3
262WeaponChoice1 = 4
263WeaponChoice2 = 5
264WeaponChoice3 = 7
265WeaponChoice4 = 8
266WeaponChoice5 = 6
267WeaponChoice6 = 0
268WeaponChoice7 = 2
269WeaponChoice8 = 9
270WeaponChoice9 = 1

Reply 10 of 16, by gladders

Posted on 2018-08-04, 07:10

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I just found this in an online article:

PROBLEM -- System hangs when you play games under MIDI Emulation. […]
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PROBLEM -- System hangs when you play games under MIDI Emulation.

CAUSE -- 1. AWEUTIL cannot co-exist with games that use DOS extender.
2. Some games require a MPU-401 'Smart' mode that is
different from the UART mode used by your audio card.
So, you have to use AWE's music synthesis capabilities
instead.

Does this sound like the culprit?

Reply 11 of 16, by dr_st

Posted on 2018-08-04, 12:27

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No! Pay attention. I said - run AWEUTIL /S which initializes the AWE32 portion. Your AUTOEXEC.BAT has AWEUTIL /EM:GM which activates the (buggy) General MIDI emulation mode. These are not the same thing.

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Reply 12 of 16, by gladders

Posted on 2018-08-04, 13:04

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dr_st wrote:
No! Pay attention. I said - run AWEUTIL /S which initializes the AWE32 portion. Your AUTOEXEC.BAT has AWEUTIL /EM:GM which activates the (buggy) General MIDI emulation mode. These are not the same thing.

Ah, I apologise. Well, it was initially on /S, but it was still saying AWE32 not detected.

Reply 13 of 16, by gladders

Posted on 2018-08-05, 05:43

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Nobody got any suggestions at all? It's definitely an AWE64, AWEUTIL is set to S, and it still can't see AWE32.

Reply 14 of 16, by dr_st

Posted on 2018-08-05, 08:18

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gladders wrote:
Ok, I figured out I need to set the switches in Autoexec.bat to get General Midi working. Now, I get music in the test if I use AWE32, but launching the game says AWE32 not detected.

Is this your current state of affairs? AWE32 music works in Duke3D setup but not in the game?

Do you have other games with AWE32 support? Is Duke3D the only one that has problems?

gladders wrote:
[Sound Setup] ; ; FXDevice = 0 MusicDevice = 6 FXVolume = 228 MusicVolume = 255 NumVoices = 8 NumChannels = 2 NumBits = 16 MixRa […]
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[Sound Setup]
;
;
FXDevice = 0
MusicDevice = 6
FXVolume = 228
MusicVolume = 255
NumVoices = 8
NumChannels = 2
NumBits = 16
MixRate = 16000
MidiPort = 0x330
BlasterAddress = 0x220
BlasterType = 6
BlasterInterrupt = 5
BlasterDma8 = 1
BlasterDma16 = 5
BlasterEmu = 0x680
ReverseStereo = 1

Why is BlasterEmu = 0x680 when it should be 0x620?

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Reply 15 of 16, by gladders

Posted on 2018-08-05, 21:44

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dr_st wrote:
Is this your current state of affairs? AWE32 music works in Duke3D setup but not in the game? […]
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gladders wrote:
Ok, I figured out I need to set the switches in Autoexec.bat to get General Midi working. Now, I get music in the test if I use AWE32, but launching the game says AWE32 not detected.
Is this your current state of affairs? AWE32 music works in Duke3D setup but not in the game?

Do you have other games with AWE32 support? Is Duke3D the only one that has problems?

Why is BlasterEmu = 0x680 when it should be 0x620?

This solved it - I don't know why it insisted on keeping it on E680 when I was setting it to E620. Weird. Had to manually change it in Duke3D.cfg

Thanks.

Reply 16 of 16, by feipoa

Posted on 2018-08-06, 12:59

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I'm curious, what percentage of games actually work with AWE64's general midi emulation in DOS (that is, when not using a DOS extender)?

The AWE64's limited spectrum of games which work with general midi emulation in DOS led me to mount a Dreamblaser S2 to the game port. Rotating the Chill and Phil midi adapter for a smoother finish But once you do this, the value of loading soundfonts in Windows is diminished. My favourite sound font is the 8 MB, 8MBGMSFX.SF2, anything larger than 8 MB really tests my patience when booting Windows. Are you using any soundfonts in Windows?

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