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Reply 300 of 495, by dionb

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Stupid question from my side - I have the card, with the pot and a 3D printed wheel (thanks Cyrix200+!), but what sort of axle should one use to stick the wheel in the pot?

Reply 301 of 495, by root42

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dionb wrote on 2020-05-12, 19:33:

Stupid question from my side - I have the card, with the pot and a 3D printed wheel (thanks Cyrix200+!), but what sort of axle should one use to stick the wheel in the pot?

A very tiny screw. I quote:

Fasten it to the potentiometer using an M1.4x0.3mm thread, 6mm long screw (McMaster-Carr part number 91800A036 or equivalent).

I order micro screws from this shop:

https://www.microscrews-shop.nl/

Other shops specialized in model making might help as well.

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Reply 303 of 495, by appiah4

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I've reached out to Eric via email one more time for information on bypassing the potentiometer, and he has kindly responded. He's really a great guy. Anyway, apparently, this is how to set it up for around 85% volume rotation:

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And the resistor divider formula is Vo = Vi * Rl / (Rl + Ru) where Rl is the output line resistor (2a/b - G) and Ru is the input line resistor (1a/b to 2a/b).

As for the potentiometer, this is the Vo/Vi vs Rotation graph:

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So I settled on using 4.7KR for both Rl and Ru - this 50% divide will result in a roughly 75% rotation, pretty much what I wanted. 😀

This whould work until root42 helps me out with the Pot. Just dropping this here for future reference to anyone who needs it.

Note: I hope TubeTimeUS doesn't mind me sharing any of this but please let me know if it is a problem.

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Reply 305 of 495, by appiah4

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TubeTimeUS wrote on 2020-05-13, 22:48:
appiah4 wrote on 2020-05-13, 11:18:

Note: I hope TubeTimeUS doesn't mind me sharing any of this but please let me know if it is a problem.

No problem!

Cool, thank you 😀

In other news, another day of soldering done and I only have the sockets and connectors left to solder to the board. I will add a photo to this post soon 😀

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Unfortunately I had to cut some corners.. I didn't have any 30pF caps so I used 33pF (I doubt it would make a difference) and instead of 47uF 16V electrolytics I used some pretty el-cheapo (Jwco branded) 47uF 25V electrolytics, which should be fine.. But we will see 😁

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Reply 306 of 495, by appiah4

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End of Day 5:

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Only major mistake so far: Sodering the DIP-40 socket the wrong way around *facepalm*.. I socketed the IC the right way though.

Last parcel with remaining components arrived today. Opening it to find out that I forgot to order the voltage regulator was priceless.... 🙁

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Reply 307 of 495, by root42

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I actually inserted the MCU the wrong way first! Got really hot. Was fine though...

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Reply 308 of 495, by appiah4

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Yeah, on Day 6 we are all done. Aside from the voltage regulator I forgot to order *facepalm*.. Also lacks the SAA1090 chips (in the mail from China) and the Alps potentiometer (*sadface*) which I'm still not sure whether I want to bypass with ugly looking resistors or not.. It looks so beautiful.

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Not bad for an amateur's follow up to the Adlib I would say.. (He said, not quite confident enough to show the back of the board 😁 )

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Reply 309 of 495, by Cyrix200+

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-05-18, 07:20:
Yeah, on Day 6 we are all done. Aside from the voltage regulator I forgot to order *facepalm*.. Also lacks the SAA1090 chips ( […]
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Yeah, on Day 6 we are all done. Aside from the voltage regulator I forgot to order *facepalm*.. Also lacks the SAA1090 chips (in the mail from China) and the Alps potentiometer (*sadface*) which I'm still not sure whether I want to bypass with ugly looking resistors or not.. It looks so beautiful.

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Not bad for an amateur's follow up to the Adlib I would say.. (He said, not quite confident enough to show the back of the board 😁 )

It's looking great! Show us the back, it might be better than mine haha.

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Reply 310 of 495, by appiah4

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Well.. Remember, you asked..

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This is about as embarassing as dropping your pants to get in bed with someone for the first time 😁

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Reply 311 of 495, by evasive

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one or two tiny scratch marks and only one pin that looks like bleeding a bit (near the connector). No burn marks. No opens. Pretty consistent soldering. 8 out of 10 I'd say.

Reply 312 of 495, by Cyrix200+

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Yeah it looks just fine! I found there were some tough spots on it to solder, especially everything on the large ground plane was harder to get up to proper temperature. Mine looks worse, I made some mistakes and the TEA2025 I had on it was not socketed and it died so I had to desolder it.

I hope you voltage regulator gets soon so you can enjoy the card!

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Reply 313 of 495, by appiah4

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evasive wrote on 2020-05-18, 08:08:

one or two tiny scratch marks and only one pin that looks like bleeding a bit (near the connector). No burn marks. No opens. Pretty consistent soldering. 8 out of 10 I'd say.

Thanks! Which joint is bleeding? And what does bleeding mean? I will fix it as soon as I identify the fault 😀

I used a simple 30w solder pen, it usually gets too hot for delicate soldering rather fast so I have to solder on and off. The extra heat helped with the ground plane I think..

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Reply 314 of 495, by evasive

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I thought on the right side of the connector, the left of the two solder points had solder flowing too much crossing a trace, on second view, it is the pin sticking out so no worries there.

Reply 315 of 495, by appiah4

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evasive wrote on 2020-05-18, 09:05:

I thought on the right side of the connector, the left of the two solder points had solder flowing too much crossing a trace, on second view, it is the pin sticking out so no worries there.

Does that upgrade my score to a 9 out of 10 then? 😁

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Reply 316 of 495, by evasive

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-05-18, 09:43:
evasive wrote on 2020-05-18, 09:05:

I thought on the right side of the connector, the left of the two solder points had solder flowing too much crossing a trace, on second view, it is the pin sticking out so no worries there.

Does that upgrade my score to a 9 out of 10 then? 😁

9- because of the scratch 😉

A full 9 would be the maximum score I give, because in the 35 odd years I do stuff with circuit boards I have never seen a perfect 10. That means every solder blob is perfectly shaped, no bent pins anywhere, no residue, all of the board lacquer in pristine condition. Doesn't happen. Not even in high-end audio devices.

Reply 317 of 495, by appiah4

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The voltage regulator finally came in the mail, so the only critical component I am left wanting is the potentiometer.. The CMS chips from China will probably take their sweet time, but I can wait.

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Reply 318 of 495, by appiah4

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I finally found a local supplier who has the Alps pot in stock so I ordered two. They will reach me in 2-3 weeks. It's a long wait, but I will finally have a working card, so I can't complain too much.

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Reply 319 of 495, by root42

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-06-05, 11:00:

I finally found a local supplier who has the Alps pot in stock so I ordered two. They will reach me in 2-3 weeks. It's a long wait, but I will finally have a working card, so I can't complain too much.

🤣. Sorry I forgot to mention, but I ordered two for you! They just arrived with the Renovation components. So if anyone needs two pots... Or I will have to build two more SnarkBarkers! 😁

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