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First post, by MKT_Gundam

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I got this card today from the recycler center
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What the model of this soundcard?

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Reply 1 of 20, by BinaryDemon

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Vogons has taught me, always search the FCC number - which returns a fairly generic name: IPC Corporation Ltd Sound Card

Stason.org has a listing for a similar card, but not identical: https://stason.org/TULARC/pc/sound-cards-mult … UDIO-BOARD.html

Thats all I found. I think it’s interesting how it has interfaces for all the major cdrom manufacturers of the era.

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Reply 3 of 20, by Tiido

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Looks like OPTi or Oak based card, probably not gonna be all that good...

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Reply 5 of 20, by bristlehog

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Early version of Media Magic ISP-16, OEM without "Media Magic" PCB silkscreen

There were different versions:

K33IFISP16 << first revision

K33IFISP16R10 << this one

K33IFISP16R20 << later revisions

K33IFISP16R30

K33IFISP16R31

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Reply 6 of 20, by MKT_Gundam

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bristlehog wrote on 2020-01-15, 15:41:
Early version of Media Magic ISP-16, OEM without "Media Magic" PCB silkscreen […]
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Early version of Media Magic ISP-16, OEM without "Media Magic" PCB silkscreen

There were different versions:

K33IFISP16 << first revision

K33IFISP16R10 << this one

K33IFISP16R20 << later revisions

K33IFISP16R30

K33IFISP16R31

Thoses soundcards are good? Also the OPL4 in this card will work like a GM/wavetable function like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7cByGN3Uq0 ?

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Retro rig 1: Asus CUV4X, VIA c3 800, Voodoo Banshee (Diamond fusion) and SB32 ct3670.
Retro rig 2: Intel DX2 66, SB16 Ct1740 and Cirrus Logic VLB.

Reply 7 of 20, by bristlehog

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MKT_Gundam wrote on 2020-01-15, 15:49:

Thoses soundcards are good? Features OPL4.

I don't know. Ask GabrielKnight123, derSammler, they have or had similar cards. Also, I don't think there's an OPL4, seems like plain OPL3.

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Reply 8 of 20, by dionb

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MKT_Gundam wrote on 2020-01-15, 15:49:

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Thoses soundcards are good? Also the OPL4 in this card will work like a GM/wavetable function like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7cByGN3Uq0 ?

Rather intrigued by that OPL3/OPL4 jumper. No sign of an OPL4 chip or associated ROMs on the board.

I'd say it looks like a fairly generic OPTi-based card, probably 82C928/MAD16. Not awful but by no means great either (definitely not worth the USD 81.55). FM synth should be OK, but I sort of dread the digital audio bit, Phil was enthousiastic about the 82C929, and although I don't like the drivers I can't complain, but there are reports of choppy sound (possibly bad DMA clicking) with the 928. Also stereo issues.

Better than nothing though.

Reply 9 of 20, by MKT_Gundam

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I found this one too and more expensive

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Retro rig 2: Intel DX2 66, SB16 Ct1740 and Cirrus Logic VLB.

Reply 10 of 20, by dionb

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MKT_Gundam wrote on 2020-01-15, 17:16:

I found this one too and more expensive:

Usual eBay insanity. Or rather, that specific kind of seller with a big shed and a lot of patience. For that money you could get a Terratec EWS64XL (on eBay, in US, available at this moment via Buy Now). Unless that OPL3/4 jumper does something very unexpected, this is at best a mid-range SBPro2 clone, the kind an OEM would put into a 'multimedia' system.

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Reply 11 of 20, by derSammler

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The OPL3/4 jumpers are for selecting the OPL4 when the OPL4 wavetable card is installed. It's done this way because the OPL4 can do OPL3 FM as well and since the OPL3 is an integral part of the OPL4, the onboard OPL3 must be disabled and its signals routed to the OPL4 wavetable.

The chip is most likely an OPTi 82C928. That's the only square chip OPTi made. Since the card is from 1994, it could also be an OTI601. Both are good SB Pro 2.0 clones with WSS for 16-bit, but nothing particularly special.

Reply 12 of 20, by MKT_Gundam

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derSammler wrote on 2020-01-16, 12:41:

The OPL3/4 jumpers are for selecting the OPL4 when the OPL4 wavetable card is installed. It's done this way because the OPL4 can do OPL3 FM as well and since the OPL3 is an integral part of the OPL4, the onboard OPL3 must be disabled and its signals routed to the OPL4 wavetable.

The chip is most likely an OPTi 82C928. That's the only square chip OPTi made. Since the card is from 1994, it could also be an OTI601. Both are good SB Pro 2.0 clones with WSS for 16-bit, but nothing particularly special.

Is this soundcard has the issue in few games like Duke Nukem 2? The Same issue on audician32.

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Reply 14 of 20, by Oetker

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I have this exact card, I can confirm it's OPTi 928 based. The midi interface isn't MPU401 compatible, I couldn't get stereo to work, and I believe the audio quality was crappy as well but I'm not sure. Also, no Win95/98 drivers.

Reply 15 of 20, by MKT_Gundam

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I have another OEM OPTI, 929a. The card look more "cheap" than this one.

Retro rig 1: Asus CUV4X, VIA c3 800, Voodoo Banshee (Diamond fusion) and SB32 ct3670.
Retro rig 2: Intel DX2 66, SB16 Ct1740 and Cirrus Logic VLB.

Reply 17 of 20, by Joseph_Joestar

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derSammler wrote on 2020-01-17, 12:54:

No OPTi chip works with Duke Nukem 2, however.

Not true, the Opti 82C930 works just fine with Duke Nukem 2 since it supports ADPCM. Check the reference guide for more details.

I'm using that card for DOS gaming and I'm pretty happy with it. You can find my review of it here.

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Reply 18 of 20, by derSammler

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Did you actually try it? Last time I did test DN2 on a 82C931, sfx didn't work just as expected. I don't have any card with the 82C930, but I don't see why the 82C930 would work when the 82C929 and 82C931 don't. The datasheet says "IMA ADPCM" support, but I'm not certain that this is the same ADPCM codec as used by the Sound Blaster cards.

Reply 19 of 20, by Joseph_Joestar

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derSammler wrote on 2020-01-17, 13:33:

Did you actually try it?

Of course, I wouldn't have mentioned it in my review otherwise.

During the DN2 intro all the sounds play fine, including the sound effect that plays when the target that Duke was shooting at moves toward the screen. As you probably know, this doesn't work right on cards which aren't compatible.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 VirgeDX / OPTi 82C930 / AWE64
PC#2: Celeron 466 / Abit ZM6 / Voodoo3 / AWE64 / YMF744 / SC-155
PC#3: AthlonXP 1700+ / Abit KT7A / GeForce4 / SBLive / ALS100
PC#4: Athlon64 3700+ / DFI LanParty / 9600GT / X-Fi Titanium