thp wrote on 2023-10-24, 19:48:

Update on the AD1980 issue. Was doing some test builds and dr.zeissler tested over the last two weeks with some back-and-forth. […]
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Update on the AD1980 issue. Was doing some test builds and dr.zeissler tested over the last two weeks with some back-and-forth.

Turns out we were quite close to the real answer to begin with, 3 bits need to be set on the MISC (0x76) register:

0x4000 - AC97NC
0x0400 - HPSEL
0x0020 - LOSEL

Pull request for upstream SBEMU: https://github.com/crazii/SBEMU/pull/35

Sorry for going back for that solved AD1980 issue...is this the fix for linux for this issue?
That would be a big step forward if this is already added to amithlon kernel4
https://github.com/SnkBitten/amithlon4/blob/m … plugin_ad1980.c

Doc

dr.zeissler wrote on 2024-04-14, 16:54:

Sorry for going back for that solved AD1980 issue...is this the fix for linux for this issue?
That would be a big step forward if this is already added to amithlon kernel4
https://github.com/SnkBitten/amithlon4/blob/m … plugin_ad1980.c

Use a more recent kernel, simple as that.

As far as I understand that the very latest linux-kernel that can provide m68k amiga plattform support is "2.4.37.9"
https://youtu.be/cUcE12W15Aw?si=amQwQckMBTnmvAyL&t=317

VSBHDA: Tyrian has started, there are sound+effects, a demo runs long time, but load track ->freezes.
Tyrian2k: Midi Ok, Effect rattles.
Config: B450/R3800X/HDA/SB0060

how do you install it in dos?

MechWarriorZero wrote on 2024-04-16, 05:56:

how do you install it in dos?

SBEMU?

It's a software driver. It relies on either vintage quarterdeck XMS driver, or JEMMEX/Himem-X+Jemm, and a custom fork of HDPMI32i's HDMI handler.

What it does:

This driver installs a "Far call" interrupt handler to protected mode, that handles the fake soundblaster card's IRQ being addressed. To accomplish that, it needs some rather deep ring-0 access shenanigans, which it gets using the proprietary Quarterdeck API. JEMM/JEMMEX supports loading extenders, and on these memory managers, "QPIEMU.DLL" gets loaded to accomplish this. It's a minimalist implementation of the Quarterdeck API, used to accomplish this.

That over with, this is how you install/use it:

Create a config.sys entry that uses either the quarterdeck XMS driver, or JEMMEX.

1device=C:\JEMMEX\JEMMEX.EXE I=B000=B7FF RAM
2DOS=HIGH,UMB

for JEMMEX (which is free software) for example.

Pair it with an aut0exec.bat that calls HDPMI32i, loads the quarterdeck API emulation library, then calls SBEMU.

1
2rem Load HDPMI32i high, limit reported handles for compatibility reasons, and remain resident after client closes
3LH C:\SBEMU\HDPMI32i.exe -x -r
4
5rem Use jload to load the QPIEMU library into JEMMEX
6LH C:\SBEMU\JLOAD QPIEMU.DLL
7
8rem Set the BLASTER variable! SBEMU picks this up automagically, and most dos games want this variable populated to configure themselves.
9SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 T6
10
11rem Actually start SBEMU
12LH C:\SBEMU\SBEMU.EXE
13

that did not work, no audio was loaded

It's very hit-and-miss which AC'97/HDA equipped devices will work (or work with a lot of fiddling) or not.

That's why there are so many "Use reports" being posted.

I used these in autoexec.bat

LH C:\SBEMU\HDPMI32i.exe -x -r
LH C:\SBEMU\JLOAD QPIEMU.DLL
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 T6
LH C:\SBEMU\SBEMU.EXE

and these in config.sys
device=C:\JEMMEX\JEMMEX.EXE I=B000=B7FF RAM
DOS=HIGH,UMB

I still need help getting sound in dos asap

Ok. My example was not meant to be a plug&play fix.

In order for that to work, the following must be true:

There is a folder called JEMMEX, that contains the jemmex.exe file, off the root of the c drive.

There is a folder called SBEMU, that contains jload.exe, qpiemu.dll, hdpmi32i.exe, and sbemu.exe. it too is right off the root.

You have a vga video card (that we can steal monochrome hercules mode display buffer from, for use as UMB)

wierd_w wrote on 2024-04-20, 11:36:

Ok. My example was not meant to be a plug&play fix. […]
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Ok. My example was not meant to be a plug&play fix.

In order for that to work, the following must be true:

There is a folder called JEMMEX, that contains the jemmex.exe file, off the root of the c drive.

There is a folder called SBEMU, that contains jload.exe, qpiemu.dll, hdpmi32i.exe, and sbemu.exe. it too is right off the root.

You have a vga video card (that we can steal monochrome hercules mode display buffer from, for use as UMB)

I'm using a wyse thin client

What is the exact output from sbemu?

MechWarriorZero wrote on 2024-04-20, 18:38:

I'm using a wyse thin client

So you are not running DOS naively?

The wyse thin client even using a compatible AC'97 chipset?

Tested SBEMU works fine with Dell Inspiron l2500 PP02L, AC'97 laptop (Wolfenstein 3D & Lotus Ultimate Challange III)

Bondi wrote on 2024-04-05, 17:21:

vanfanel wrote on 2024-04-05, 14:35:

How do you get Jazz Jackrabbit running with JEMMEX? I always get: […]
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How do you get Jazz Jackrabbit running with JEMMEX?
I always get:

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1Loader error (0025): cannot initialize

It's been said on this thread that the game works with VSBHDA, but I can't get it to work.
Other protected mode games like Doom, etc work fine, with sound and all.

Do you run the special 16 bit version of the VSBHDA?
Re: SBEMU: Sound Blaster emulation on AC97

I have tried with both the normal version and the 16bit version. But I believe the game needs the normal version, not the 16bit version... right?
EDIT: Tried the 16 bit version and it works! No stereo (audio seems to be missing one channel), but yeah, it sounds!

Has anyone successfully gotten DR. SBAITSO to work with either SBEMU or VSBHDA? I'm getting either "can't detect Soundblaster settings" or an "Interrupt error" from the program. I think the problem is related to the old 1991 BLASTER.DRV file which it uses, and I can find no updated version of this driver.

The main SBAITSO.EXE program is seemingly a compiled QuickBASIC program, which probably adds to the problems. There is no source code available, either.

I'd like to be able to have this ELIZA-like "therapist" speak in modern systems in bare metal. A sort of primitive ChatGPT in DOS. I remember using the program over 30 years ago, with much relish and delight.

Also, I'm experiencing a freeze on all the userbuilds of SBEMU past February or so (since General Midi at port 0x330 was added). The SBEMU program detects all the usual settings, and then just freezes the system. All versions (even back to the first betas posted in Feb / March 2023) previously worked very well for me on Intel HDA and the same laptop - before the new MIDI / port 0x330 code was added to the program.

Are there commandline options to specificially disable this detection. I can't even run SBEMU to get a list of the commandline options, as it crashes my system immediately. Strange, indeed.

zyzzle wrote on 2024-04-22, 23:48:

Also, I'm experiencing a freeze on all the userbuilds of SBEMU past February or so (since General Midi at port 0x330 was added). The SBEMU program detects all the usual settings, and then just freezes the system. All versions (even back to the first betas posted in Feb / March 2023) previously worked very well for me on Intel HDA and the same laptop - before the new MIDI / port 0x330 code was added to the program.

Are there commandline options to specificially disable this detection. I can't even run SBEMU to get a list of the commandline options, as it crashes my system immediately. Strange, indeed.

Thanks for the report, I'll check it soon.

Just a quick update:
I've read some documents about VXD and it seems a hell of work, including exporting & linking win32 vmm functions, while loading & linking is not quite a problem since the dpmi binary is already a OS2 linear executable (LE/LX) and the loader can load it and potentially other VXDs which are OS2 LE/LX, linking functions needed to be added. the most heavy works are a set of vmm functions to be implemented and tested.
So I've decided take a little step first and added port trapping through vendor api, now SBEMU works for the games I tested previously, plus 16 bit clients, jazz jackrabbit and tyrian 2k tested. it will be release on beta5 (or maybe 1.1 alpha1).

The next step is gonna make SBEMU a VXD first working for win9x, and then use it to finish the VXD codes. but before that, now I'm back to SBEMU and complete unfinished business with beta4, and create a history branch of beta4.