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Issue with my diamond voodoo 1, please help

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First post, by winuser3162

Posted on 2024-04-10, 08:20

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I have a Diamond multimedia monster 3D Voodoo 1 with the original driver disk. The card was working a few months ago when I had it installed in a windows 98 machine until I switched the machine to windows 95.

Whenever I install the card it displays completely fine when connected to my s3 trio or ATI rage 3D card via the pass through cable but windows 95 doesn’t prompt me for a driver installation and acts almost as if the card doesn’t exist. I’ve tried running games and the games run like I only have my S3 trio installed. I’ve tried installing the drivers from the original 1.09 driver disk but windows still doesn’t recognize the installed card, I’m just left with “monster 3D” as a program.

I have tried to install the card in a different windows 95 socket 7 machine and windows recognizes it as an unknown device but doesn’t show anything in device manager indicating the card is installed nor does it prompt me to install the drivers.

The card is in very good visible shape and I’ve taken very good care of it. Maybe a fresh install of windows 95? If anyone has advice for me I’m desperate to get this card working.

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Reply 1 of 11, by konc

Posted on 2024-04-10, 09:04

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Try to eliminate possibilities.
Is it a windows issue? Test the card on a fresh, temporary installation (even on a different HDD if you don't want to format the current installation until proven bad)
Is it a win95 issue for some weird reason? Confirm that the card still works as it used to do in a similar win98 environment.
Is it a software or a hardware issue? Test with a couple of pure DOS games.
These should give you a general direction for the next steps.

Reply 2 of 11, by Joseph_Joestar

Posted on 2024-04-10, 09:33

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From what I remember, simply installing the Diamond drivers by running setup from the CD wasn't enough under Win95.

I had to manually update the card's drivers from Device Manager, where it was labeled as an unknown device or something like that.

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Reply 3 of 11, by zuldan

Posted on 2024-04-10, 10:20

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I installed a Diamond Voodoo 1 on a Windows 95 on a socket 7 machine last week. It appeared as a Multimedia device initially then Installed Diamond drivers. No issues.

Your Voodoo 1 isn’t working on 2 machines so I don’t think it’s software. Try clean the PCI copper connection with some IPA then insert it in and out of the PCI slot a few times. If that doesn’t work, it would be a good idea to inspect all the solder joints (microscope massively helps with this).

Reply 4 of 11, by marxveix

Posted on 2024-04-10, 12:32

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Test your card with dos and voodoo games, does it work there?

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Reply 5 of 11, by winuser3162

Posted on 2024-04-10, 15:22

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marxveix wrote on 2024-04-10, 12:32:

Test your card with dos and voodoo games, does it work there?

I’ll test it in dos this afternoon as I haven’t done that yet and give an update on how that goes.

Reply 6 of 11, by winuser3162

Posted on 2024-04-10, 15:23

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konc wrote on 2024-04-10, 09:04:
Try to eliminate possibilities. Is it a windows issue? Test the card on a fresh, temporary installation (even on a different HDD […]
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Try to eliminate possibilities.
Is it a windows issue? Test the card on a fresh, temporary installation (even on a different HDD if you don't want to format the current installation until proven bad)
Is it a win95 issue for some weird reason? Confirm that the card still works as it used to do in a similar win98 environment.
Is it a software or a hardware issue? Test with a couple of pure DOS games.
These should give you a general direction for the next steps.

Would testing the voodoo1 on XP be possible?

Reply 7 of 11, by konc

Posted on 2024-04-11, 10:23

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winuser3162 wrote on 2024-04-10, 15:23:

konc wrote on 2024-04-10, 09:04:
Try to eliminate possibilities. Is it a windows issue? Test the card on a fresh, temporary installation (even on a different HDD […]
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Try to eliminate possibilities.
Is it a windows issue? Test the card on a fresh, temporary installation (even on a different HDD if you don't want to format the current installation until proven bad)
Is it a win95 issue for some weird reason? Confirm that the card still works as it used to do in a similar win98 environment.
Is it a software or a hardware issue? Test with a couple of pure DOS games.
These should give you a general direction for the next steps.

Would testing the voodoo1 on XP be possible?

To check if the card is recognized, yes of course. But I don't know if XP have built-in drivers for it and the official ones aren't for XP. For a complete test you'll also need to find something that uses the card and runs correctly under XP.

Reply 8 of 11, by winuser3162

Posted on 2024-04-29, 21:37

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konc wrote on 2024-04-10, 09:04:
Try to eliminate possibilities. Is it a windows issue? Test the card on a fresh, temporary installation (even on a different HDD […]
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Try to eliminate possibilities.
Is it a windows issue? Test the card on a fresh, temporary installation (even on a different HDD if you don't want to format the current installation until proven bad)
Is it a win95 issue for some weird reason? Confirm that the card still works as it used to do in a similar win98 environment.
Is it a software or a hardware issue? Test with a couple of pure DOS games.
These should give you a general direction for the next steps.

Took a closer look at the card and saw a chipped cap. Not sure if it’s a problem though. I’ll send a photo over.

Reply 9 of 11, by Imperious

Posted on 2024-04-30, 00:13

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I highly doubt that would cause any issues. You haven't told us yet whether Any Dos 3DFX games work yet? like Tomb Raider for example.

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Reply 10 of 11, by Gmlb256

Posted on 2024-04-30, 15:10

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Testing DOS games with Glide support and/or running the 3dfx diagnostic utility would help.

Reply 11 of 11, by winuser3162

Posted on 2024-05-02, 15:08

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Gmlb256 wrote on 2024-04-30, 15:10:

Testing DOS games with Glide support and/or running the 3dfx diagnostic utility would help.

yeah i tested a copy of tomb in dos and got an error code. i dont remember exactly what it was off hand but it was something like "failed hardwareGuild O" ill test it again when i get home today and get the full name of the error code.

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