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First post, by Kahenraz

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I have this ATI Rage 128 Pro for which I was struggling to find drivers for Windows 98. I tried the wmer1284137192.exe driver package from Phil's website which did not detect the card. This is interesting because the drivers clearly state that the Rage 128 Pro is supported and the card is most definitely a 128 Pro.

I tried all kinds of drivers until I finally found two that worked: v4.13.01.8006 from soggi's website. I also found some Dell drivers which also worked.

Which driver is newer is debatable; I believe that soggi's is newer, and it is also dated later, but some version strings in Dell's driver suggest that it is either older or newer. I didn't look into this too closely but I've attached links to both drivers for anyone else who may be interested.

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Reply 1 of 24, by pixel_workbench

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I have such a card, and the latest official driver installer did not recognize it either. I just did an INF mod and added the correct strings, now the installer detects the card.

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Reply 2 of 24, by soggi

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Kahenraz wrote on 2021-08-20, 03:01:

I tried all kinds of drivers until I finally found two that worked: v4.13.01.8006 from soggi's website.

Please note:

These beta drivers haven't been released by ATI itself, they were available at Sapphire's page back in the day (http://www.sapphiretech.com/downloads/DRIVER/ … /R1289x_673.zip) - it was hard to find them as archive.org doesn't have the URL archived.

I decided to make them available on my page (at https://soggi.org/drivers/ati.htm) because they are hardly visible in today's web and there are many dead links.

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Reply 3 of 24, by Kahenraz

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Can you confirm whether this is in fact a Sapphire card?

Reply 4 of 24, by soggi

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No, it pretty looks like a generic Rage 128 Pro - that were very "generic times" in relation to ATI back then. The only ATIs in standard design of that time I could assign to a specific "manufacturer" (the real manufacturer is the OEM indeed) were the Gainward one's with there ICUVGA-GW**** FCC ID (i.e. Gainward CARDEXpert RAGE IIC, FCC ID : ICUVGA-GW806D).

Nevertheless, the beta drivers from Sapphire are suitable for every card with a ATI Rage 128 (Pro) GPU.

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Reply 5 of 24, by retardware

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what is the PCI data?
Can you give us the output of lspci -vvv ?
If you don't have a Live Linux, pci.exe from the OS/2 people helps, too.

Reply 7 of 24, by 386SX

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Yesterday I found a even later low profile Rage 128 Pro dated "2000 ATi" but both pcb and ram modules are early 2002. It looks a generic ATi built cards but the P/N number point to an HP oriented Rage 128 Pro. Ram @ 6ns is the same layout and PN 109-73100-01 with four modules identical to the one at http://vgamuseum.info/index.php/charts/shader … e-128-pro-ultra on first the left but with four modules.

Reply 8 of 24, by Kahenraz

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Another difference is that the one I have appears to use SGRAM. I think is a DELL OEM part.

Reply 9 of 24, by 386SX

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The SGRAM choice is always interesting indeed.

Reply 10 of 24, by dr.zeissler

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Looks like the R128pro in my G4-Cube. But the Mac-Varinat has an adittional connector to drive the power to the monitor.

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Reply 11 of 24, by Con 2 botones

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I own this very same card.
Remember having faced the same problem trying to install the latest reference driver (WMER1284137192.exe) some months ago.
I had to use and older obscure one (don´t remember which one, have it saved at home).

Will have to try the drivers provided by Soggi. Thank you Soggi for sharing it!

An interesting tool I tried with this card and liked a lot, is "Rage128 tweak_15b4". It has interesting options, vsync related, etc. I remember having had a nice performance boost with it.
Paired with a PIII 600EB it delivered a very pleasant experience in Quake III, for instance.

Reply 12 of 24, by soggi

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Con 2 botones wrote on 2021-09-07, 14:02:

Thank you Soggi for sharing it!

You're welcome!

Con 2 botones wrote on 2021-09-07, 14:02:

An interesting tool I tried with this card and liked a lot, is "Rage128 tweak_15b4". It has interesting options, vsync related, etc. I remember having had a nice performance boost with it.

This tool will be part of the next update of my website, together with some other tweaking tools - but I don't know for now when it will be final for upload.

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Reply 13 of 24, by dr.zeissler

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I think I should consider a performance/featureset comparision between a R128pro and my Savage4.

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Reply 14 of 24, by sprcorreia

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I have one thay says "Powered by Rage 128 Ultra" and the drivers from ATI/AMD don't recognize it.
I know that the Ultra is for OEM, so I'll give these beta drivers a go.

Thanks.

Reply 15 of 24, by JayAlien

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Thanks, found this thread.
I have what looks to be one of the Dell low profile versions. On the back it states ATI Rage 128 Ultra w/ 32mb. The blue VGA connection looks to have the HIS branding on the inside....

I'd given up on at after trying 4 different driver packages, none of which would detect the card. Used the beta drivers from Soggi, card seems to work now. It's in with a PII-400 so I'll see what it can do.

EDIT: Spoke too soon. Drivers installed but is completely unstable and won't run DirectX with any success. Booo.

386sx25 SBP2 2M
P75(486) SB16 8M
P133 S3 Vir DX A64g 32M
P233MMX R128Pro A64 64M
Pii400 TNT2 Live! 128M
P3-1G V5 M80 256M
P3-1.4G R8500 A1 256M
A3200 9700Pro A2 512M
X6800 X850XT A2ZS 1G
E8600 X1950XTX Xfi 2G
QX9650 3870 Xfi 2G
i7-975 GTX570 Xfi 3GB

Reply 16 of 24, by Meatball

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JayAlien wrote on 2023-02-12, 21:29:
Thanks, found this thread. I have what looks to be one of the Dell low profile versions. On the back it states ATI Rage 128 Ultr […]
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Thanks, found this thread.
I have what looks to be one of the Dell low profile versions. On the back it states ATI Rage 128 Ultra w/ 32mb. The blue VGA connection looks to have the HIS branding on the inside....

I'd given up on at after trying 4 different driver packages, none of which would detect the card. Used the beta drivers from Soggi, card seems to work now. It's in with a PII-400 so I'll see what it can do.

EDIT: Spoke too soon. Drivers installed but is completely unstable and won't run DirectX with any success. Booo.

Try these drivers from Dell. I have several different types of Dell ATI Ultras, including the low-profile versions and these worked:

R0045.EXE is for Windows 2000
R1231.EXE is for Windows XP
ATIM9A06.7z is for Windows 9x (You'll need 7-ZIP or similar utility to extract into ATIM9A0.EXE.)

Reply 17 of 24, by JayAlien

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Thanks for posting these. I used up most of my afternoon yesterday trying to get this card working, but haven't tried the drivers you posted. I decided to not use a 'non standard' card in this build and have ordered a TNT2 card instead.

386sx25 SBP2 2M
P75(486) SB16 8M
P133 S3 Vir DX A64g 32M
P233MMX R128Pro A64 64M
Pii400 TNT2 Live! 128M
P3-1G V5 M80 256M
P3-1.4G R8500 A1 256M
A3200 9700Pro A2 512M
X6800 X850XT A2ZS 1G
E8600 X1950XTX Xfi 2G
QX9650 3870 Xfi 2G
i7-975 GTX570 Xfi 3GB

Reply 18 of 24, by Kahenraz

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The Rage 128 is such a weird card. Lots and lots of custom OEM variants and driver anomalies. Thankfully it got better once the Radeon came about.

Reply 19 of 24, by W.x.

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JayAlien wrote on 2023-02-12, 21:29:

Thanks, found this thread.
I have what looks to be one of the Dell low profile versions. On the back it states ATI Rage 128 Ultra w/ 32mb. The blue VGA connection looks to have the HIS branding on the inside....

I'd given up on at after trying 4 different driver packages, none of which would detect the card. Used the beta drivers from Soggi, card seems to work now. It's in with a PII-400 so I'll see what it can do.

Just from curiosity. Is it this version?
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