Reply 1060 of 1116, by darry
Kordanor wrote on 2021-03-13, 03:15:
@Darry: So assuming I am using the Datapath E1S on a PC, I am recording via OBS, and I am playing in DOS on another PC, jump in […]
@Darry: So assuming I am using the Datapath E1S on a PC, I am recording via OBS, and I am playing in DOS on another PC, jump in and out of a game, switch frequency and resolution - what would I need to record it? Do I understand it correctly that it will switch automatically according to presets in its software? Or would I need to readjust anything manually each time? And what software is used for that? Is it the one you can download from their page (VisionInstall v7.20.1)? I am also wondering because all the cards on ebay come without software.
Also another question regarding these cards: https://www.datapath.co.uk/datapath-products/ … ds/vision-range
So besides of the Datapath VisionRGB-E1S there are also:
VisionRGB-E2S - is it just the same with two inputs? Can you switch via their software between two Inputs or even have them both at once (like having two webcams in two USB plugs)
VisionSD4+1S - no idea at all what the difference is supposed to be. No idea what "input channels" actually mean in this context.
VisionSD8 - same.
And of course on ebay you also find old models: VisionRGB-E1 (without the "s"). What is the difference, any idea?
I am especially wondering regarding the "higher" cards, as the price for the E1S is still insane if you order from Europe.
E1S from the US (10 remaining) -> 56.44€ Price+ 44.65€ Shipping + And I guess another 30€ or so in customs.
E1 from the US (4 remaining) -> 40.76€ Price + 44.65€ Shipping + And I guess another 30€ or so in customs.
VISION SD8 from UK (1 remaining) -> 137.82€ + 10.39€ Shipping + 33.08€ in customs (thanks to the Brexit)
Of course once the cards ran out, that source is also pretty much done anyways as usual purchase price is 767€ (so I guess they better not break)
I think you need to configure/define the presets in VCS first for each required resolution, define an "output" resolution and then configure your capture application (OBS) to capture that . I have not used VCS yet or OBS . Probably best to read VCS docs, look here VCS - A capture utility for certain Datapath capture cards , experiment or ask vvbee (VCS author) . You need to install the drivers you mentioned too . If there are any other requirements, they are sure to be mentioned in VCS docs .
The software/drivers I use with my E1S are freely downloadable from their website . I use Windows 10 Pro x64 .
I am not familiar with most of the other cards Datapath sell . They are probably documented on their website (they seem to have excellent documentation for the E1S).
AFAICR, the E1 is more limited in its ability to capture very high resolutions in RGB because it can only do 480MB/second vs the E1S 650MB/second , but they are otherwise very similar . If you capture at 1600x1200 or lower, it won't make a difference, if my quick back of the envelope calculations are correct . They use the same driver package : https://www.datapath.co.uk/datapath-current-d … install-v7-20-1
I can't speak for durability yet, but considering the original price and target market, I would guess that they are likely as reliable as technology allows Datapath to make them . They do have heatsinks, so keeping them well ventilated is probably a good idea .
Based on your previous posts, some Google searches, and finding the exact same prices+shipping that you posted on the German version of a certain auction site (using a VPN), I am going to guess that you are located in Germany and I must admit the price are high and choice is limited. As a comparison, current pricing for getting an E1S shipped to me would be 131 CAN$, including shipping and customs, so about 43€ less than for you. Considering shipping and insurance costs, even getting someone in North America to buy one and ship it to you would likely not be worth it as it would likely imply paying customs on your end . Maybe you could look into a re-shipping service, (something similar to Buyee for auctions on Yahoo Japan), but that too would probably be almost as expensive (if it is even possible) . I bought my E1S in September 2020 for 100 CAN$ with a backplate and all shipping and customs included, so prices do seem on the rise .
To be honest, though, even the price you would currently need to pay seems decent for what is, at this price point and feature set, practically a unique product (full RGB capture is both not common and not cheap) that is not only still supported by the manufacturer in Windows 10 (and apparently Linux ) but also still being sold as new .