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Reply 461 of 648, by clueless1

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Thanks, that tells me it's system-specific. I'll give it another go later (it's my son's PC and he's playing on it now).

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Reply 463 of 648, by Skyscraper

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Yesterday I tried to run a Prescott 570 on my Abit Fatal1ty AA8XE i925XE motherboard, it would not even post with the release BIOS 😀. I then tested a S775 Gallatin P4 EE 3.46GHz and the board posted at once.

Here is how the Gallatin performed, at stock it's slower than vetz S478 Gallatin 3.2GHz and it needs 3.75 GHz + video card overclock to catch up with my S478 Gallatin 3.4GHz. It IS really amazing how fast the Asus P4C800 is!

Gallatin 3.46 + Geforce 6800 Ultra stock.

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Gallatin 3.46 + Geforce 6800 Ultra overclocked.

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After I had benched the Gallatin I flashed the latest BIOS and the performance with the Gallatin dropped to ~20 FPS in Doom 3 what ever I do and it's no better in 3dmark. I think Abit dropped proper Gallatin support in the later BIOS versions eventhough the L3 cache seems active with the option in the BIOS to disable it still present. I should perhaps made a backup of the release BIOS my board had before flashing the new BIOS. With luck everything works as it should with newer Prescott CPUs, we will soon know as I will try the Prescott 570 again after posting this.

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Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 464 of 648, by vetz

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Nice results Skyscraper, early 2004 LGA 775 is not that common!

I'm probably going to go back to my overclocked Prescott. My 3.2EE can't overclock very much (I got 3.6ghz using 1.8v) and at that voltage I started to see speedstep kicking in to protect the CPU. At a 3.4ghz overclock I couldn't reach your result at 105.6fps, so I dunno what is wrong. While my overclocked Gallatin might beat the Prescott in Doom 3, it doesn't look good in other benches, with the Prescott winning.

If I had a 3.4ghz EE it would probably be easier to select the best CPU, but atm I don't own one, and they are too expensive on Ebay.

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Reply 465 of 648, by Skyscraper

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vetz wrote:

Nice results Skyscraper, early 2004 LGA 775 is not that common!

I'm probably going to go back to my overclocked Prescott. My 3.2EE can't overclock very much (I got 3.6ghz using 1.8v) and at that voltage I started to see speedstep kicking in to protect the CPU. At a 3.4ghz overclock I couldn't reach your result at 105.6fps, so I dunno what is wrong. While my overclocked Gallatin might beat the Prescott in Doom 3, it doesn't look good in other benches, with the Prescott winning.

If I had a 3.4ghz EE it would probably be easier to select the best CPU, but atm I don't own one, and they are too expensive on Ebay.

Thanks 😀

As soon as you overclock all magic i875p enhancements disappear what ever the BIOS settings, the only way around that is to boot at 200 MHz and use SoftFSB or similar to overclock in Windows. Overclocking with SoftFSB will overclock the PCI and PCI-E bus though and with all voodoo active I doubt you get very far over 200 MHz before the system blue screens or locks up. Your result at 3.2 GHz looked to be in line with my result at 3.4 GHz, just 200 MHz slower. 😁

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Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 466 of 648, by agent_x007

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I tested P4EE 3,46GHz @ 4GHz and I have a 6800 Ultra PCI-e lying around, BUT MB I'm using is P5WD2 Premium (with 955X chipset), so it's "a no go" on period correct hardware (MB is from 2005) 🙁

Here's video of it running Crysis @4k (with help from GTX 780 Ti) 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7UI7s1yIE

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Reply 467 of 648, by Skyscraper

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agent_x007 wrote:

I tested P4EE 3,46GHz @ 4GHz and I have a 6800 Ultra PCI-e lying around, BUT MB I'm using is P5WD2 Premium (with 955X chipset), so it's "a no go" on period correct hardware (MB is from 2005) 🙁

Here's video of it running Crysis @4k (with help from GTX 780 Ti) 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7UI7s1yIE

Nice!

I wish my P4EE 3.46 clocked that good! My shitty CPU needs 1.6V for 3750 MHz so I would think it tops out at 3850 or so using ~1.75V, perhaps 3900 with water but not 4GHz.

My s478 3.4EE can do 4 GHz with water and alot of voltage though. 😀

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 469 of 648, by Skyscraper

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With the v1.5 BIOS the motherboard posted with the Prescott 570 but the performance is still on the level of a P3 800. I need to find some other BIOS! 😜

Edit

It seems the SATA support for my Seagate Barracuda ST3750640NS is totally broken with the v1.5 BIOS. The drive works in AHCI mode but doesn't even get detected in any other mode and even in AHCI mode the performance is sluggish to say the least.

I have somehow managed to get the performance up to P3 1400-S level but it probably changes every time I restart*. 😀 Now I'm arguing with my self if it's worth trying another HDD and resinstall everything before trying to downgrade the BIOS to something older.

I have BIOS version 1.3 and 1.4 (plus the version 1.5 I'm using now), with luck one of them will work as good as the 1.0? from October 2004 that my board had when I got it.

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*Confirmed, I powered down to test another SATA cable and now I see 30 FPS in 3dmark2001 game1 low detail! 😁

I have now found all BIOS versions including v1.0 and also a v1.6 I diddnt know about.

This BIOS archive I found had all versions except for v1.5, I wonder why. 😁

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I updated to the v1.6 BIOS and the performance is still on the level of a Pentium 3. What did Abits BIOS programmers smoke?

I guess it's time to try the other BIOS versions one by one.

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BIOS version 1.2 is the chosen one! It both works with the Prescott 570 and my Seagate Barracuda ST3750640NS. Best of all the video performance is normal, not on the level of a random Pentium 3!!!

What a f*****g horrorshow the different BIOS versions for the Abit Fatal1ty AA8XE are.

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Edit5

After getting a decent score at stock speed with the Prescott 570 I did some overclocking. I wanted to run the tightest NB strap (133/533) at 230+/920+ MHz FSB which diddn't work most of the time but if I kept resetting using really high memory, termination and NB voltages it got past post once in a blue moon and then it ran sort of stable. Trying to squeeze out a few more MHz I kept resetting and managed to corrupt something 😁. The BIOS was still there, I even got into it sometimes by removing one memory stick but loading fail safe defaults did nothing, the system was still stuck at my more or less insane voltages, straps, memory speed and with the Prescott 570 at 4.4 GHz.

This motherboard has automatic recovery to stored fail safe BIOS setting for CPU memory and timings and for some reason voltages after a failed POST and my failed overclocked settings had become the new fail safe defaults the board keeps loading. Clearing the BIOS with the jumper or via the battery holder did not help as the board just reloaded its "fail safe" settings from where ever the automatic recovery function stores them. I kept trying to get into the BIOS with a single memory stick and kept loading defaults over and over again and it did finally stick, stupid motherboard! 😁

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Last edited by Skyscraper on 2016-04-18, 22:06. Edited 3 times in total.

New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 471 of 648, by Skyscraper

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agent_x007 wrote:

Edit 5 Q: Why U didn't simply switched CPU's ?

I would have sooner or later but remounting the TR Ultra 120 and wasting new thermal paste twice is more work than shouting at the computer! 😀

It's late here and I'm tired!! Now I'm back on track though.

I think Im going with 4400 MHz and the default 200/800MHz strap, the memory will run at ~700MHz 3-3-3-8 which seems fully stable. It wont be as fast as it would have been at 4400 with the 133/533 strap and the memory at 928MHz 4-4-4-12 but I have had enough of "on the brink" clocking for this night.

The CPU hits a brick wall at between 4400 and 4500 MHz, 4400MHz is seeminly stable with 1.55V but 4500MHz isn't even benchable with 1.65V. It's 27C in my computer room by now from all the testing which probably dosn't help.

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 472 of 648, by Skyscraper

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Here are the results with the Prescott 570. 😀

Unlike the Pentium 4 EE 3.46 the Prescott 570 performed better overclocked than I would have guessed, the Fatal1ty AA8XE seems to like Prescotts better with the v1.2 BIOS.

Abit Fatal1ty AA8XE + Pentium 4 570 + Geforce 6800 Ultra. Stock settings

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Abit Fatal1ty AA8XE + Pentium 4 570 + Geforce 6800 Ultra. OC settings. The memory speed is not 926MHz 3-3-3-8 but 694MHz, CPU-Z detects it wrong.

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Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 473 of 648, by agent_x007

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Gallatin 4GHz with 6800 Ultra OC vs. Windows 7 SP1 and Doom 3 v1.3 😀

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Onboard Audio.

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Reply 474 of 648, by Standard Def Steve

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Aiming for an all time low! Here's that pink Sony netbook I found in the dumpster, painfully stumbling its way through Doom 3.

Atom N470 (1.83GHz/512K L2), Intel GMA3150, 2GB DDR2-667, onboard audio, Win7 SP1:

800x600 Ultra (the built in LCD panel only supports up to 1024x600):
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Reply 475 of 648, by Standard Def Steve

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Here's my trusty Q6700 running @ 4GHz on an Asus P45/DDR3 mobo with a GTX 680. 😀

Core 2 Quad Q6700 @ 4GHz/1600FSB, GTX 680 (331.65), 8GB DDR3-1600 CL9, Asus P5Q3 (iP45), onboard audio, XP-SP3
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94 MHz NEC VR4300 | SGI Reality CoPro | 8MB RDRAM | Each game gets its own SSD - nooice!

Reply 476 of 648, by havli

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I'm surprised there are no SLI results in the "Less strict somewhat period correct toplist"... so here is first. 😈

Yes, that MB is really using AMD 790FX chipset. SLI working well after applying this patch http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/sli … t-cards.158907/

130.9 FPS, havli, A64 X2 6000+, MSI K9A2 Platinum (790FX), 2x2 GB DDR2 750 CL5-5-5-15, GF6800GS SLI 309.08, onboard audio, win7-64

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Reply 477 of 648, by Standard Def Steve

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The Ultimate Phenom II build is finally complete. This thing is a monster: 351 fps on Windows 7! I'm sure it would be around 25-30 frames faster under XP, which would put it well ahead of my 4GHz Q6700.

Phenom II X6 1090T @ 4070MHz, GTX 680, 16GB DDR3-1760 CL9, Asus Crosshair IV Formula (890FX), onboard audio, Win7 64

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94 MHz NEC VR4300 | SGI Reality CoPro | 8MB RDRAM | Each game gets its own SSD - nooice!

Reply 479 of 648, by candle_86

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Stock Semi Correct
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