appiah4 wrote:

Of course Rage Fury Pro would do 44 fps in Q3 because it's a completely different card from Rage Pro Turbo.

It is? I didn't know that. I thought the only difference is memory bus and clock speed.

[EDITED] - It seems there's a Rage PRO and a Rage Fury PRO. The main difference seems to be clocks and memory bus width. Same chip.

kanecvr wrote:

It is? I didn't know that. I thought the only difference is memory bus and clock speed. […]
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appiah4 wrote:

Of course Rage Fury Pro would do 44 fps in Q3 because it's a completely different card from Rage Pro Turbo.

It is? I didn't know that. I thought the only difference is memory bus and clock speed.

[EDITED] - It seems there's a Rage PRO and a Rage Fury PRO. The main difference seems to be clocks and memory bus width. Same chip.

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The GPUs are completely different; the Fury has a Rage 128 GPU, Rage PRO has a Rage PRO GPU. Rage Fury has 32/64MB RAM, Rage PRO has 4MB.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Rage#3D_Rage_Pro

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Rage#RAGE_128

Rage PRO is around Voodoo 1 levels, it manages 15fps in 640x480 Unreal 1: http://vintage3d.org/rage3.php#sthash.5jyhzHZ2.dpbs

ATI Marketing still working in 2017 😁

The chips are Rage 128 and Rage 128 Pro. Everything else are just names to confuse you 😀

Rage Fury Pro uses the Rage 128 Pro. These are quite decent, good 32 bit colour D3D performance, close to TNT2, but OpenGL is their weak spot.

Rage 128 is the previous chip, quite a bit slower and some other weaknesses, I've actually never benchmarked it, I reckon they are too slow for my standard benchmarks that I use.

Rage Fury MAXX is the dual chip card with two Rage 128 Pro chips.

Turbo and other names, you cannot trust them. There are so many OEM cards, with clocks and performance all over the place. Cards with Rage 128 Pro stickers, but Rage Pro chips.

Thanks for clearing that up guys. Good to know.

The wikipedia page should be updated. It's... confusing to say the least.

kanecvr wrote:

Thanks for clearing that up guys. Good to know.

The wikipedia page should be updated. It's... confusing to say the least.

Yes. Rage 128 Pro deserves a separate section instead of being a subsection under Rage 128. LT should be a subsection under Rage II, and LT Pro and XL should be subsections under Rage Pro.

http://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cards/ite … echnologies-inc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_gra … its#Rage_Series

Rage Pro family (process tech: 350nm)

• - ATI 3D Rage Pro PCI
  - ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP
  - ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 2x
  - ATI Rage Pro Turbo AGP

Rage 128 family (process tech: 250nm)

• - ATI Rage 128 VR
  - ATI Rage 128 GL

Rage 128 Pro family (process tech: 250nm)

• - ATI Rage 128 Pro
  - ATI Rage 128 Pro Ultra
  - ATI Rage Fury MAXX

ATi deliberately made a mess of the branding at the time, it pissed off consumers and OEMs alike. They messed things up so bad that they had to completely ditch the Rage branding, which had become something of a mark of shame for them, and move to Radeon for the 7000 series. I became a believer after Radeon 8500 and never stopped using their cards afterwards.

appiah4 wrote:

Of course Rage Fury Pro would do 44 fps in Q3 because it's a completely different card from Rage Pro Turbo.

So many years later and the names are STILL confusing. But indeed, The rage fury pro's chipset is the rage 128 pro.
Not the same as the rage pro or the rage pro turbo so no, it is also not a rage pro 128bit version. Confusing? yes.

This gives a nice overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_Rage

EDIT: Geez..... i missed page 2 completely! Never mind me.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Rage II series.

My iMac G3 233 for example has a Rage IIc with 2MB of VRAM.

I also see references to something called ATI Rave. This is a graphics API?

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Rage II series.

My iMac G3 233 for example has a Rage IIc with 2MB of VRAM.

I believe this model has an expansion slot? Upgrade video cards were produced for it but they are very rare. You can even put a Voodoo2 in there:

http://www.macworld.com/article/1014902/imacboards.html

If it's in reference to Macs, yes, it's a graphics API (Renderer Accelerated Virtual Engine). If not, it's likely a typo.

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Rage II series.

Why? It's performance is tier below Rage Pro/i740.

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Rage 128 is the previous chip, quite a bit slower and some other weaknesses, I've actually never benchmarked it, I reckon they are too slow for my standard benchmarks that I use.

I don't know what's included in your standard benchmarks but I've seen your retro-review of Savage 4. Rage 128 is faster than Savage 4 at least.