Hi!

What do you mean "the DOS version"? I don't recall there were versions for Windows?

Or are you comparing floppy and CD-ROM (with speech) versions here?

Correct, I meant the "Floppy" version versus the CD-ROM.

Star Trek Judgement Rites CD ver works properly for me with my real MT-32 in DOSBox.
Maybe delete game's .cfg file and run setup again.

Is it uploading patch banks for new instruments etc., for you rather than using the default mt-32 instruments?

yes it is uploading them for 20 seconds

Maybe you've got it configured for General MIDI/MPU-401/Sound Canvas/SCC-1 instead of MT-32/CM-32/CM-64/LAPC-I?

This same issue always used to happen to me. I don't remember if I fixed it or not. I remember thinking that it just might be that the instruments on Judgment Rites aren't as good as the instruments on 25th Anniversary (which doesn't make sense). But I definitely ran into the same problem that you did....at least you're not alone in that problem.

I think he didn't have uploading patch banks for new instruments. So I guess the game was not configured for mt32 but for general midi.

It is definitely configured for MT-32 and I have the right port picked. The game refuses to upload instruments so I am stuck with defaults which sound horrible.

My CD-ROM was printed in 1998 by Interplay, it is not the first CD-ROM version which came out in 1995. It has a graphical SVGA installation interface and configuration screen.

What version do you have Robert?

If I run the FLOPPY version of the game, it uploads instruments perfectly for Judgement Rites, just not in my CD-ROM version, which I'd rather play because of the full speech.

my installer is vga (the same as floppy installer).

Check whether your game saves different config file for gm and mt32. Are you using DOSBox? Have you installed the game properly in dosbox?

Oh it definitely is installed properly. I am using Dosbox as well.

The installer for sure is different from the original--this installer is high resolution and even the sound selection screen is high resolution with pretty super vga (well, 640x480) artwork.

My fears are as worse as worse can be--that the 1998 CD-ROM version is modified from the 1995 CD-ROM version. Your installer is ANSI text right?

I bought this version off of Amazon and I suppose at the time did not know there was a difference between the CD-ROM versions. 🙁 It is as if the driver/executable is handling the MT-32 completely differently than the vanilla disk version.

I will check the config file and let you know.

One interesting thing--in the CD-ROM version I have, there are no .MT files in the various subdirectories (well, I'll have to double check that), but the file structures are different in some ways. Also, in order to run the sound setup, unlike the Disk version, I have to run Install, not Setup like before.

Do you run Setup on your version?

It definitely saves a different config parameter for MT-32, however, for some reason, it still will not upload patch data.

I enclose list of files on my cd (it is mostly the same as floppy version). I don't have any .mt files anywhere.

I also enclose my .cfg file configured to use only mt/lapc (no mouse, sound blaster, so it looks very simple to compare).

Thanks for the directory list. To me, it looks like you have a cd of all the dos version of various countries and not the full speech/video version? It appeared to me to not take up nearly the amount of space that my version does.

The CD alone is 500+ megs of data and every single line of text in it is spoken by one of the original series actors.

I have tried a different version with svga setup and more speech/videos. So they made new version of the game use Human Machine Interfaces sound drivers. A lot of games use Human Machine Interfaces sound drivers and I was not able to make any of them use MT-32 properly. Although all these games can use General MIDI/General Standard, so that is not a problem at all.

BTW - notice that movies no longer use midi music in the new version.

Mr_Blastman wrote:

Thanks for the directory list. To me, it looks like you have a cd of all the dos version of various countries and not the full speech/video version? It appeared to me to not take up nearly the amount of space that my version does.

The CD alone is 500+ megs of data and every single line of text in it is spoken by one of the original series actors.

Hi, a bit off topic... is this true? Mobygames says, "In the floppy disk version of the game, the Enterprise's computer held a huge library of Star Trek Trivia." ... ... ... "Sadly, for the Talkie CD, this database was lost because of their decision to use Majel Barrett as the computer voice." http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/star-trek-j … nt-rites/trivia

I ask because the database seems in-tact in the CD-ROM version, with both text and audio (voice).

Also, anyone have ID #s or pics of the CD-ROM version mentioned above that contains the floppy version localized for many diferent locations?

Thx for the thread.

I dont have anything on what your asking vogamer but as this thread has been resurrected here is a fix for the original issue, created by tikalat.

Re: Interplay - sound driver hacking