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First post, by Teppic

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I've done some recordings with a Advance Logic ALS100 sound card, but I noticed slowdowns with certain songs in OPL3 (and maybe OPL2 too) compared to how DOSBox plays them. Having no experience with other sound cards, I want to make sure if this seems to be normal behavior, or something that only my particular sound card suffers from.

Attached OPL2 and OPL3 versions of the first level in Descent II for comparison.

Reply 2 of 11, by Teppic

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Okay, maybe that wasn't the best example. Here's a better one. Especially at the end.

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  • Filename
    Level 3 part (DOSBox 071, OPL3).mp3
    File size
    1.42 MiB
    Downloads
    507 downloads
    File comment
    Part of Descent II Level 3 (DOSBox 071, OPL3)
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception
  • Filename
    level 3 part (OPL2).mp3
    File size
    1.43 MiB
    Downloads
    474 downloads
    File comment
    Part of Descent II Level 3 (OPL2)
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception
  • Filename
    Level 3 part (OPL3).mp3
    File size
    1.48 MiB
    Downloads
    491 downloads
    File comment
    Part of Descent II Level 3 (OPL3)
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception

Reply 3 of 11, by HunterZ

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Does it have an actual FM chip or does it emulate one? If it emulates one then I wouldn't be surprised to hear slowdowns if the driver gets CPU starved.

Reply 5 of 11, by HunterZ

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Don't see any Yamaha/YMF chips on there but maybe it has a clone chip?

Realtek has some datasheets here: http://www.realtek.com/search/default.aspx?keyword=als100

Reply 7 of 11, by Teppic

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I guess it's a clone chip then. It doesn't sound anything like my terrible Sound Blaster PCI 128 card with emulation, but would maybe explain the slowdowns.

I knew I should have looked these things up first before staring with my recordings :(

Reply 8 of 11, by Jepael

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Interesting to see the clone chip. I did not download the Realtek files as they were Windows executables (not much use on Linux now...)

I had a broken sound card which had a real YMF262 chip but the DAC was a clone with a name of LS-215, very similar sounding to the original YAC-512, just the numbers in different order.

I did not do any in-depth analysis but it seems that the clone DAC is pin-to-pin compatible with the original.

Plus I threw the card away, so I only kept the OPL chipset to myself.

Reply 9 of 11, by Teppic

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I have done some new recordings with a Sound Blaster 16 CT1740.

Still some slowdowns compared to DOSBox, especially the OPL3 recording. But I guess these slowdowns are supposed to happen then? It would be great if someone could confirm this.

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  • Filename
    Level 3 OPL2.mp3
    File size
    704.62 KiB
    Downloads
    431 downloads
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    Level 3 OPL2 CT1740
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    Fair use/fair dealing exception
  • Filename
    Level 3 OPL3.mp3
    File size
    1.44 MiB
    Downloads
    417 downloads
    File comment
    Level 3 OPL3 CT1740
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    Fair use/fair dealing exception

Reply 10 of 11, by leileilol

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It's the game itself accessing the HD during playback. Go hit F2 into the options screen as soon as you load a level. For better results, play a demo recording then enter options.

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Reply 11 of 11, by Teppic

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They are recorded from the menu, and the hard drive isn't accessed at all from what I can tell. Not even when I did access the hard drive all the time, by constantly switching screen size while demo recording, making the game completely unplayable, it made any difference.

I also did a recording from a demo recording while in the options menu, and I can't notice any difference.

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  • Filename
    Level 3 OPL3 HD.mp3
    File size
    1.43 MiB
    Downloads
    411 downloads
    File comment
    Level 3 OPL3 Hard Drive access
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    Fair use/fair dealing exception
  • Filename
    Level 3 OPL3 R.mp3
    File size
    1.43 MiB
    Downloads
    419 downloads
    File comment
    Level 3 OPL3 Demo recoding menu
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception