What protocol are you using? Standard Windows networking?

A quick and easy alternative is the mini SFTP server available at http://www.coreftp.com/server/index.html . Start it up at one end of the connection, and then use FileZilla on the other end to connect. If the speeds are better, then that will suggest it's a protocol problem.

If the speeds aren't better, the next step would be to rule out Windows by trying the same thing with a live Linux CD on both ends.

I'd be inclined to keep blaming MTU, but you said you looked into that.

Do you have another modern machine to test transfers to? (between both Windows 7 machines)

Jorpho wrote:

What protocol are you using? Standard Windows networking? […]
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What protocol are you using? Standard Windows networking?

A quick and easy alternative is the mini SFTP server available at http://www.coreftp.com/server/index.html . Start it up at one end of the connection, and then use FileZilla on the other end to connect. If the speeds are better, then that will suggest it's a protocol problem.

If the speeds aren't better, the next step would be to rule out Windows by trying the same thing with a live Linux CD on both ends.

I'd be inclined to keep blaming MTU, but you said you looked into that...

Thanks for your response. I forgot to mention that I also tried using an FTP Server/Client, thinking that the protocol stack was the problem. I downloaded the free version of CoreFTP, but I ran into the exact same problem. 🙁

DosFreak wrote:

Do you have another modern machine to test transfers to? (between both Windows 7 machines)

I have a laptop running Windows 7 that I tested with as well (also Windows 7 x64) - same result.

Artex wrote:

I have a laptop running Windows 7 that I tested with as well (also Windows 7 x64) - same result.

To be clear, does that mean you got proper transfer speeds between the Windows 7 machines, but poor performance between each of the Windows 7 machines and the 98 SE computer?

Jorpho wrote:

Artex wrote:

I have a laptop running Windows 7 that I tested with as well (also Windows 7 x64) - same result.

To be clear, does that mean you got proper transfer speeds between the Windows 7 machines, but poor performance between each of the Windows 7 machines and the 98 SE computer?

Sorry - I got the same slow result from both windows 7 machines to the three Windows 98SE boxes. Windows 7 to Windows 7 = totally fine. I'm using a Netgear WNDR3700 router. Unfortunately, I don't have any crossover cables or other switches/hubs to test with.

Another thing to test 98 to 98 transfer speed. If still super slow then you can rule out the windows 7 machines.

I've copied to 98SE\NT4 back and forth to windows 7 fine (it's been awhile tho) to an old compaq laptop.

I've never had luck with using Win7 shares with 98SE. Vista started this problem. I can browse the Win7 shares OK, but actual file access freezes. I researched this years ago and got nowhere.

I have a Linux-based NAS that works fine with 9x though so I use it as intermediary. SAMBA wins.

Darn - was hoping for an easy win - a known issue with simple fix. I guess I expect to much when there's so many years between the operating systems. 😀

swaaye wrote:

I've never had luck with using Win7 shares with 98SE. Vista started this problem. I can browse the Win7 shares OK, but actual file access freezes. I researched this years ago and got nowhere.

I have a Linux-based NAS that works fine with 9x though so I use it as intermediary. SAMBA wins.

Hey there fellow Wisconsinite! Still looking for that SoundScape Elite and Roland SCD-15 if you know anyone who wants to let go of either. 😀 (Wink Wink).

There's always IPX
http://hilltopit.com/article_ipx_spx_vista_x64.html
😲

There's a boot.ini switch and also a program to disable the signed driver requirement on the internet so mabye that would get it to work.

but mabye just a dual-boot with Linux would be easier.

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There's always IPX http://hilltopit.com/article_ipx_spx_vista_x64.html :exclamation: […]
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There's always IPX
http://hilltopit.com/article_ipx_spx_vista_x64.html
😲

There's a boot.ini switch and also a program to disable the signed driver requirement on the internet so mabye that would get it to work.

but mabye just a dual-boot with Linux would be easier.

That sounds a bit scary. 😀 Perhaps I will just use the USB 2.0 add-on card for now.

DosFreak wrote:

There's always IPX http://hilltopit.com/article_ipx_spx_vista_x64.html :exclamation: […]
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There's always IPX
http://hilltopit.com/article_ipx_spx_vista_x64.html
😲

There's a boot.ini switch and also a program to disable the signed driver requirement on the internet so mabye that would get it to work.

but mabye just a dual-boot with Linux would be easier.

By the way, is your avatar image from "Altered States?" by chance. I LOVE that movie!

Artex wrote:

Darn - was hoping for an easy win - a known issue with simple fix. I guess I expect to much when there's so many years between the operating systems. 😀

But if it was an operating system compatibility problem, SFTP would work.

It might still come down to the networking hardware you're using in your Win9x boxes. Like I said, the only way to be sure would be to boot up the machine with a live Linux CD – there ought to be some that will work in your Win9x machine.

https://www.google.com/search?q=98se+shares+vista

It might have something to do with network authentication. NTLM v2, specifically. I dunno.

swaaye wrote:

https://www.google.com/search?q=98se+shares+vista

The shares work fine - it's just the slow file copies...

I've never been able to reliably transfer files - only browsing the shares works ok. Considering the Google results, I'd say MS "improved" something and it broke backwards compatibility (NTLM v2 perhaps).

Try this
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239869

Another thought: Just try disabling Windows networking entirely (i.e. using the network connection properties page) and see if the FTP speed improves.

Jorpho wrote:

Another thought: Just try disabling Windows networking entirely (i.e. using the network connection properties page) and see if the FTP speed improves.

On the Win98 side? Do you mean remove "Client for Microsoft Networks" ??