AFAIR i installed a Win2000 machine with the 'experimental' 3D support a few years ago and had no problems at all.
I played Simon the Sorcerer 3D on it and it just worked.
Have you installed the guest addons?
Gave the VM 256+MB video RAM?
DirectX?

AFAIK, not all versions of DirectX are supported on host systems. It seems that only DirectX 8, 9 and OpenGL interfaces are supported. That means that many older apps won't work or work only with software rendering.

Try running dxdiag and go to Display, and push the "Test Direct3D" button. In a real computer, it should show some dancing cubes. Under Virtualbox the first test should fail (sorry, no DirectX 7 here) but the others (DirectX 8 and 9) should work.

If that test works and your game don't work, maybe your game uses an unsupported DirectX version.

Tried Final Fantasy 7 with aali's openGL driver via VirtualBox and XP guest, but didn't work. Think the best option is vga passthrough via Linux. Currently trying to set this up with rage128 VR pci and Windows 9x guest via Qemu.

Holering wrote:

Think the best option is vga passthrough via Linux.

Are you suggesting that the VM can access the video card hardware directly? I didn't think that was possible.

KVM and ESX can. Haven't kept track of QEMU but it would make since if it did since QEMU uses KVM.

I thought FF7 was patched to work fine in modern windows? and then there was the re-release of the game on Steam as well.

and there's always the PS version of it.

Not sure why the "best option" would be passthru.....

Zup wrote:

Try running dxdiag and go to Display, and push the "Test Direct3D" button. In a real computer, it should show some dancing cubes. Under Virtualbox the first test should fail (sorry, no DirectX 7 here) but the others (DirectX 8 and 9) should work.

Yes, that's exactly what happened, but I still can't get 'experimental' 3D.
It's not a big issue; I'm simply curious to see if it works.

Jorpho wrote:

Holering wrote:

Think the best option is vga passthrough via Linux.

Are you suggesting that the VM can access the video card hardware directly? I didn't think that was possible.

Yes, but only if your system supports VT-d.

DosFreak wrote:

I thought FF7 was patched to work fine in modern windows? and then there was the re-release of the game on Steam as well.

Worked fine on Native Windows 7 64-bit on my end. But I couldn't with Windows XP virtualized guest in VirtualBox, using VirtualBox's hardware accelerated 3D on my end.

DosFreak wrote:

and there's always the PS version of it.

Final Fantasy 8 and stuttering sound ...?

DosFreak wrote:

Not sure why the "best option" would be passthru.....

If virtualizing, I think vga passthrough is the best option because you get native GPU hardware-speed available. Right now it seems extremely iffy however and that does suck (I still haven't got it working)...

Hi eberyone, how about Microsoft Virtual pc?? I mean, i'm trying to emulate a 3d card in Win 95 OSR2, wich i have instaled under Microsoft Virtual PC (host machine has windows 7 and my video card is a Asus EAH6850 1gb DDR5). I'm trying to fly F-16 agressor, and it simply doesnt detect any 3d accelerated card.

What can i do? Should I try installing any voodoo 3, 4 or 5 drivers?

A wrapper should work (i need to execute it under win95)?

Thanks a lot!!

Nope, nope, and nope. Virtual PC has, to my knowledge, never provided 3D acceleration to "guest" operating systems, and there is no virtual machine that offers 3D acceleration to Win9x; no installation of wrappers or drivers will fix that. The closest you can get are specialized builds of DOSBox, and maybe Bochs or QEMU as suggested above, but those are still bleeding-edge.

A better question is, why can't you run this game under Windows 7 directly?

Ni jorpho, i tries these ganes under w7 and no success. The games are iMagic f-22 And f-18, and ign f-16 Aggressor (this oNE has a poligonal issue in the sky). I try to make them run in win95 or 98, the OS they were madre for. So, it's impossible running 3d games unddr virtual machines??
Thanks

http://www.zeus-software.com/downloads/nglide/compatibility

D'Ace wrote:

i tries these ganes under w7 and no success.

Please don't say things like that; it's not helpful at all. Do the games start up? Do you get some kind of error message?

(Also, please try to spell correctly.)

I try to make them run in win95 or 98, the OS they were madre for.

If it works in Windows 7, then there is no need to run them in Win95 or 98. As DosFreak suggests, you can probably get them to run in Windows 7 without a virtual machine by using nGlide.

So, it's impossible running 3d games unddr virtual machines?

It is sometimes possible to get 3D games to run in Windows XP (or possibly Windows 2000) in a virtual machine, but not in Win9x in a virtual machine.

Thanks for your reply, and sorry for the spelling mistakes, my google keyboard was trying to correct my words all the time (it is set in spanish language), now i', writting from my PC and not my tablet. Ok, what I tryed to explain is that i have some old games (win 95 period) wich I couldn't start even in windows xp, at least i was not able to run them, so they were in my desk's drawer for some years. Once i have moved to Win 7, I felt astonished when i noticed there were software to emulate old OS with great quality, and I spent a whole weekend installing old glories as Win 95, Win 98 SE and even Win 3.1 on DOS 6. I almost cry...

And now the challenge. The games i mentioned above, i-Magic simulators, were made for Win95 / Win 98. I was never able to fly them on XP. What if i could install and run them in a virtual machine??? and this is my golden dream for the moment. With F-16 Aggressor the issue is different, since i moved to XP many years ago i observed a problem in the sky, polygons are without any texture and the effect is awful. My hope is that under Win 95 / 98 maybe the problem be solved....

And this is the big story of my last week. Sorry for the inconvenience, i just thought that virtual machines were made to emulate SO with all their capabilities. Now i'm trying with Oracle Virtualbox and Win 95, but i can't activate 3D acceleration maybe i guess for the same reason Jorpho tells us in the post above.

If anyone knows how to activate 3D Acc. in Win 95, please please please let me know. My first simulators (yes, i'm a simmer) experiences were with this OS and a Voodoo 3. Wonderful years..

D'Ace wrote:

wich I couldn't start even in windows xp

I have already asked: what exactly happens when you try to start them in XP or Windows 7? There are many programs that were "made for Win 95 / Win 98" that still run in XP or Windows 7, although it sometimes takes a little effort. But it is difficult to say what you should do if you cannot say what problems you are having.

When I hit the .exe file nothing happens. A little clock that vanishes in few seconds. In both games.