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First post, by damson

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From the official list of supported cards:

3DFX Voodoo Graphics 3DFX Voodoo 2 ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (Mach64 GX) ATI Video Xpression (Mach64 VT2) ATI VGA Edge-16 (ATI-1880 […]
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3DFX Voodoo Graphics
3DFX Voodoo 2
ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (Mach64 GX)
ATI Video Xpression (Mach64 VT2)
ATI VGA Edge-16 (ATI-18800)
ATI VGA Charger (ATI-28800)
CGA
Cirrus Logic CL-GD5429
Cirrus Logic CL-GD5430
Cirrus Logic CL-GD5434
Compaq CGA
Diamond Stealth 32 (Tseng ET4000/w32p)
Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 (S3 ViRGE/325)
Hercules
Hercules InColor
IBM EGA
IBM VGA
MDA
MDSI Genius
Number Nine 9FX (S3 Trio64)
OAK OTI-037
OAK OTI-067
Olivetti GO481 (Paradise PVGA1A)
Paradise Bahamas 64 (S3 Vision864)
Phoenix S3 Trio32
Phoenix S3 Trio64
Plantronics ColorPlus
S3 ViRGE/DX
Sigma Color 400
Trident TVGA8900D
Trident TGUI9400CXi
Trident TGUI9440
Trigem Korean VGA (Tseng ET4000AX)
Tseng ET4000AX
Wsye 700

which one is the fastest choice for unaccelerated (software) 3d graphics?

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Reply 1 of 8, by DosFreak

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You should be more concerned about compatibility and a faster host cpu.

Also are you asking which of the listed cards are fastest as far as real hardware or fastest as far as pcem is concerned?
If a card is the fastest at one game at a certain resolution but not one you would normally game with would that qualify?
I don't know if anyone has bothered to benchmark all of the above in pcem, I do know there are several threads here where real hardware has been testd.

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Reply 2 of 8, by damson

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I mean the fastest as a real hardware gets. I was just curious. I was not deep into gpu stuff back during this period (early and mid 90s), only since early 2000, when I started building my own PCs.

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Reply 3 of 8, by gdjacobs

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damson wrote on 2020-05-24, 21:32:

I mean the fastest as a real hardware gets. I was just curious. I was not deep into gpu stuff back during this period (early and mid 90s), only since early 2000, when I started building my own PCs.

Software only 3d graphics is really 2d graphics, so Voodoo 1 and 2 cards don't apply.

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Reply 4 of 8, by damson

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gdjacobs wrote on 2020-05-24, 22:01:
damson wrote on 2020-05-24, 21:32:

I mean the fastest as a real hardware gets. I was just curious. I was not deep into gpu stuff back during this period (early and mid 90s), only since early 2000, when I started building my own PCs.

Software only 3d graphics is really 2d graphics, so Voodoo 1 and 2 cards don't apply.

Yeah, I know - I copied the list from PCem site.

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Reply 5 of 8, by leileilol

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ATI Mach64VT and S3 ViRGE DX are emulated with 2d acceleration.

(though, S3 Trio64 does sometimes bring better DirectDraw performance than Virge for some reason)

Also Voodoo cards can apply to this if the DirectX game is a little too naive on letting you choose different hardware to render software rendering on (as per DirectX compliance), and they're the slowest option in that case, just like real life. 😀

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Reply 7 of 8, by damson

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🤣, just got on https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/video-xpression.c3164
and read the card description.

The Video Xpression was a graphics card by ATI, launched in May 1996. Built on the 600 nm process, and based on the Mach64 graphics processor, in its Mach64 VT2 variant, the card does not support DirectX. Since Video Xpression does not support DirectX 11 or DirectX 12, it might not be able to run all the latest games. The Mach64 graphics processor is a relatively small chip with a die area of only 90 mm² and 1 million transistors. It features 1 pixel shader and 0 vertex shaders, 0 texture mapping units, and 1 ROP. Due to the lack of unified shaders you will not be able to run recent games at all (which require unified shader/DX10+ support). ATI has paired 1 MB EDO memory with the Video Xpression, which are connected using a 64-bit memory interface. The GPU is operating at a frequency of 62 MHz, memory is running at 62 MHz.
Being a single-slot card, its power draw is not exactly known. Display outputs include: 1x VGA. Video Xpression is connected to the rest of the system using a PCI interface.

"might not be able to run all the latest games" ... you don't say ...

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Reply 8 of 8, by leileilol

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TechPowerup's hardware articles are machine generated and often contain misinformation (like that "doesn't support DirectX" tidbit right there)...dunno why certain places and folks treat them as an authorative source...

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