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Reply 30700 of 30758, by GigAHerZ

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GigAHerZ wrote on 2026-01-11, 15:06:
Found these products with the help of AI - i asked for ingredients, searched what is locally available, and then described the i […]
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GigAHerZ wrote on 2026-01-10, 15:02:

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I now need to go to find some things to weld back all other plastic clips that have broken off - the back case has nothing to hold on to. Thankfully i have all the broken pieces. Found some local products with the help of AI to actually weld and recreate ABS plastic. I hope i don't have to just glue the backside onto the monitor somehow...
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Found these products with the help of AI - i asked for ingredients, searched what is locally available, and then described the ingredients of the products to the AI to confirm if these are the right tools for the job.

Just applied these products on some plastic pieces.
The yellow product is like water, but it makes the Compaq's plastic a bit smeary-pastey on the surface it was applied after 10-15 seconds. (I used cotton swab) Applied it to the both sides of the break.
Then i took the red bottle. This is thicker, like some rubber-glue. Applied a thin coat on one piece on the broken surface.
Then pushed the pieces together and as AI predicted, I could even see some plastic slightly bulging out as it was soft. (I hope I still am in the margin of error for the measurements 😀 )
Now i have to wait at least 24h before I could apply a second coat of the red one to build a bit more material on the pieces.
But so far it's promising - I've never had myself any chemistry that could "melt" the original plastics. I hope it works.

It would be amazing, if at last, i have some sort of procedure and approach to repairing plastics once and for all. I already have 2-part epoxy to create "hard rock, concrete" in places where i have room and don't need any flexibility. (Think of laptop's display hinge screw posts) I really-really hope i have found "the way" now for slightly flexible plastics.

In summary:
Yellow Arrow 901 - Used only initially to soften the original plastics.
Red Arrow 1108 - Used initially as well as later to build additional material. After the first steps, some tiny cracks may appear in plastic - these can also be filled with this 1108 after 24+h.

The original usage for those products is to "glue" together PVC piping for hot and cold water.

So... I think it did the trick.

The yellow bottle just softened/melted the plastics so i could position the pieces in their place and only thing that kept them in their place was their own softened plastic itself. The yellow bottle is a solvent of some kind. It doesn't leave anything behind by itself.

Then after every 24 hours, i added a thin covering from the red bottle. This is like some thick syrup and a bit brownish. That is what is most visible on the pictures. I added it both to the broken areas as well as reinforced the areas that hadn't broken yet. I did maybe about 4 coats, 24h for each coat and then waited about 48h until now.

I tried to put the covers back on now, and i think i succeeded. No parts broke of and as much as i can confirm (while the covers are now fully on) these parts stayed solid.

At last, I have some kind of solution to fix broken clips!
Because I've never had a solution for that problem, while the problem has existed for me for over a decade, it feels like magic!

I can now go and put together a full Compaq Deskpro set!

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
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Reply 30701 of 30758, by BitWrangler

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Some days, Thinkpads happen.

Today an X21 happened to me.

$15 CDN thrift find, lightly battlescarred but holding up. This is about as far as it gets, can't see it's HDD. Don't think it wants to boot from a USB stick unless I get specific about format. Think maybe I better find the instructions of how to do a 32MB floppy format on a stick. Gonna try the older linux sticks I've got though.

Though might be able to boot compact flash, not sure, will maybe try that tomorrow.

Edit: urgh, shouldn't post late at night mistook this for the "bought" thread.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 30702 of 30758, by Ozzuneoj

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BitWrangler wrote on 2026-01-18, 05:57:
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Some days, Thinkpads happen.

Today an X21 happened to me.

$15 CDN thrift find, lightly battlescarred but holding up. This is about as far as it gets, can't see it's HDD. Don't think it wants to boot from a USB stick unless I get specific about format. Think maybe I better find the instructions of how to do a 32MB floppy format on a stick. Gonna try the older linux sticks I've got though.

Though might be able to boot compact flash, not sure, will maybe try that tomorrow.

Edit: urgh, shouldn't post late at night mistook this for the "bought" thread.

Hey, people have been posting in wrong places on the internet since it's inception. So, that is also a retro activity.

😁

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 30703 of 30758, by Shponglefan

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Testing out throttling my Pentium MMX 233 build via SETMUL and CPUSPD. Gave me a 3D Bench score of 33.3, about the same as a mid-range 486.

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Out of curiosity, I performed the same benchmark on my Pentium 4 3.4 GHz with cache disabled and got an identical score.

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486 DX4-100 with 6 sound cards
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Reply 30704 of 30758, by Joseph_Joestar

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Shponglefan wrote on 2026-01-19, 01:46:

Testing out throttling my Pentium MMX 233 build via SETMUL and CPUSPD. Gave me a 3D Bench score of 33.3, about the same as a mid-range 486.

You should be able to go much lower than that. I got a score of 12.7 on a Pentium MMX 200 using SetMul L1D BPD VPD and with the motherboard's L2 cache disabled. As I recall, BPD and VPD will stack on top of disabling L1 and L2 caches, giving you even more slowdown.

BTW, the slowest I could get from that machine was a score of 8.7 when running the CPU at 100 MHz (2x50) and using the aforementioned settings. I might have been able to squeeze out a few more points by loosening memory timings, but I didn't bother with that.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Core 2 Duo E8600 / Foxconn P35AX-S / X800 / Audigy2 ZS
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 980Ti / X-Fi Titanium

Reply 30706 of 30758, by Shponglefan

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2026-01-19, 06:35:

You should be able to go much lower than that. I got a score of 12.7 on a Pentium MMX 200 using SetMul L1D BPD VPD and with the motherboard's L2 cache disabled. As I recall, BPD and VPD will stack on top of disabling L1 and L2 caches, giving you even more slowdown.

Yes, I did test it with L1 and L2 cache disabled and got a score of 14.9. Haven't tried the other MMX settings on top of that yet.

I may also try it with throttling the processor speed itself, but haven't tried that yet either.

I just thought it was funny that disabling L1 and some of the MMX features yielded performance on par with my Pentium 4 with cache disabled. To me this just reinforces how good the Pentium 4 is as a retro machine when throttled.

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Reply 30707 of 30758, by GigAHerZ

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And it's done! I've fully restored the machine now.

Original configuration:

Intel Pentium II 266MHz
64MB SDRAM
2.1GB HDD
ATI Rage Pro Turbo AGP 4MB
ESS ES1869 (integrated)
3Com EtherLink III Network Card with all possible connectors (modern RJ45, BNC, AUI)
1.44MB FDD
52x CD-ROM

Upgrades, reversible:

Intel Pentium III 550MHz
ATI Rage 128 Pro 16MB
256MB RAM
32GB Industrial SSD (+ SATA-IDE adapter)

It's a beauty.

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"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
A little about software engineering: https://byteaether.github.io/

Reply 30708 of 30758, by Windows9566

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A pair of Toshiba laptops, the 200CDS i modded with a TFT screen, the 430CDT i got working with barely any battery damage, It has a password lock on it though

Toshiba Satellite 200CDS
Toshiba Satellite Pro 430CDT
Toshiba Satellite Pro 480CDT
Toshiba Tecra 740CDT
IBM Thinkpad 760LD
Nan Tan(Clev0) FMA86T

Reply 30709 of 30758, by Nexxen

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Windows9566 wrote on 2026-01-20, 03:17:
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A pair of Toshiba laptops, the 200CDS i modded with a TFT screen, the 430CDT i got working with barely any battery damage, It has a password lock on it though

I had a working 200CDS until it didn't and still not working after some troubleshooting and help.
Modding the screen isn't hard but, IIRC, you need the correct video card mods (it's the same across but with different resistors and caps).

The 430, can you desolder the bios and flash a new one to get rid of the password or is it stored elsewhere?

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

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Reply 30710 of 30758, by GigAHerZ

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IIRC, if you connect certain pins on LPT parallel port on your Toshiba laptop, it will erase the bios password. 😉

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
A little about software engineering: https://byteaether.github.io/

Reply 30711 of 30758, by zuldan

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tehsiggi wrote on 2026-01-19, 10:34:

Gave the Arctic Silver massacred R300 some love.. looks way better now..

She looks beautiful now 😉. If you had to reball or reflow that GPU (pre-heater + hot air), how would you stop those little smd caps from flying? Only thing I can think of it’s to cut little strips from tin foil tape and place them over the caps? (I think kapton would just fly away with the caps when cut in thin strips).

Reply 30712 of 30758, by tehsiggi

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zuldan wrote on 2026-01-20, 10:43:
tehsiggi wrote on 2026-01-19, 10:34:

Gave the Arctic Silver massacred R300 some love.. looks way better now..

She looks beautiful now 😉. If you had to reball or reflow that GPU (pre-heater + hot air), how would you stop those little smd caps from flying? Only thing I can think of it’s to cut little strips from tin foil tape and place them over the caps? (I think kapton would just fly away with the caps when cut in thin strips).

For hot-air: Lower airflow. but yes, covering them in small pieces of tape should suffice.

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Reply 30713 of 30758, by TechieDude

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nali wrote on 2026-01-17, 18:45:

I think I've also never seen a P2/P3 Slot 1 with paste.
In fact I have no idea when paste became a regular thing, for years I stopped other's computers circa 2003 😀

Those usually have some sort of thermal pad, so it's not the same as just putting a heatsink on a CPU.

Reply 30714 of 30758, by AppleSauce

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I've mostly been mucking about with my FM Towns computer that i acquired about a year ago, I went through a whole journey of acquiring parts , doing lots of repair work , especially on the Towns crt that got damaged in transit , and dealing with OS stuff.

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Reply 30715 of 30758, by nali

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To help fixing a modern laptop, I found a POST codes reader based on a Raspberry Pi Pico.
Very easy to build, and works perfectly.
I suppose it can be an alternative for old laptops too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Kq1r9A0k0
https://github.com/MrGreensWorkshop/RasPiPico … sPostCodeReader

Reply 30716 of 30758, by sunkindly

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Finally finished up the Amiga 2000 build by replacing the black rubber feet with cork ones that would've been there originally.

Ended up getting a German keyboard as a little nod to how popular it was there.

I put in a 40MHz 030 accelerator, 2MB chip RAM, 16MB fast RAM, Video Toaster, TBC-IV, and Personal Animation Recorder (which is what the Quantum drive is for).

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SUN85: NEC PC-8801mkIIMR
SUN92: Northgate Elegance | 386DX-25 | Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 | SB 1.0
SUN97: QDI Titanium IE | Pentium MMX 200MHz | Tseng ET6000 | SB 16
SUN00: ABIT BF6 | Pentium III 1.1GHz | 3dfx Voodoo3 3000 | AU8830

Reply 30717 of 30758, by chronoreverse

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Working on my Sony PCG-FXA32 laptop. It's not quite a fast Win98 laptop but also has DOS sound issues which is a fun challenge.

I've replaced the IDE drive with a CompactFlash which immediately changed it from a loud laptop to a quiet one!

Reply 30718 of 30758, by CharlieFoxtrot

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AppleSauce wrote on 2026-01-22, 01:43:
I've mostly been mucking about with my FM Towns computer that i acquired about a year ago, I went through a whole journey of acq […]
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I've mostly been mucking about with my FM Towns computer that i acquired about a year ago, I went through a whole journey of acquiring parts , doing lots of repair work , especially on the Towns crt that got damaged in transit , and dealing with OS stuff.

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These ase seriously cool computers, it is awesome that you got it fixed. Looks stunning!

Reply 30719 of 30758, by Ozzuneoj

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I was testing some video cards today and I've been running into a really annoying problem when using Wintune97. Sometimes it lists the wrong Video Card as being in the system and I can't seem to find any way to make it list the right one. When this happens it will list some different card that I have had in the system at some point. Right now it keeps saying I have a Trident Blade3D even though I'm testing an SIS 6326 (all drivers installed and Windows lists it properly). I have tried deleting all references to the one it is detecting from the Windows registry, and I have even tried starting Wintune with the database file deleted\moved so it has to start a fresh database... it still finds the same wrong video card.

Anyone have any idea where it is finding the video card and what I can do to delete or reset this? I wouldn't even care that it gets it wrong once in a while if I could just correct it manually or have it detect it again... but I don't want benchmark runs to be tainted with incorrect specs that can't be fixed.

This is all under Windows 98SE.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.