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Reply 58840 of 58849, by EduBat

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Nicolas 2000 wrote on 2026-04-26, 19:36:
https://i.ibb.co/4RDSMbCJ/20260426-202401.jpg PCI parallel port. PCI TV card. Are these TV cards of any use today? […]
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PCI parallel port. PCI TV card. Are these TV cards of any use today?

The fibre router provided by my ISP has a coaxial port out of which they provide both the digital and (some) analogue channels. I use such a PCI card to watch TV on my desktop PC.

Reply 58841 of 58849, by appiah4

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Mandrew wrote on 2026-04-24, 18:08:

Got one of the most undesirable monitors of all time, the VGA monochrome. This one is a Sunshine MO-14 with a nice and bright CRT.

Why are these undesirable?.. They were great for office use, we had them in our computer lab at high school and they were great for what we used them for..

Reply 58842 of 58849, by Nicolas 2000

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The Riva TNT 2 says just that on the chip, no Pro or anything. The card seems to be an OEM that I can't find on google. VRAM is km432s2030ct-67 which is 32 bit?

Thanks for the insights! I'm not a parts collector (or don't want to be) so something being first or rare is not a reason in itself for me to keep it; my collection is limited to functioning PC's that should add an era of gaming without too much overlap. In this collection there is nothing to enhance my P4 XP system which already has a vastly more powerful GPU. And for my P3 W98 build, there is also nothing that touches the ti4200 in there, even within my DX7 limit. My DOS/early Windows build is a 486 DX50. But that only has ISA and VLB so nothing relevant in this lot. Those 3 PC's tend to give me a wide spectrum with very little overlap. I don't know if there would be any use case for me to add an early Pentium (100-200) as I can't think of many games that are too heavy for the 486 but don't run well on the P3. But, just in case, I'll keep one Matrox Millennium II PCI for myself (8MB model, oh yeah) so I have it available if I ever get an early Pentium. And the Hercules sound card just to have something for it. And I'll also keep one S3 Trio64V+ as they're worth little but so practical to have around as an "it just works" card. And I'll keep the MX440 (64 bit, boohoo) around as a somewhat powerful spare card for emergencies.

As for my spare P3 667 mobo, I'll configure it into a max compatibility W98-and-earlier system with what I have available. No ISA sound card in the bin, so I'll put in the Audigy2zs for W98 quality and the CT4810 to close any compatibility gaps (though so far, I've been able to make the Audigy work with all my DOS games). And for GPU I'll give it the MX460. Seems like a good match with the CPU power (I'll put in a 733). Add 256MB RAM to it and I think this is a config that can sell for enthusiasts.

So that means all the rest can go up for sale, I think. Not everything will sell but we'll see about that when time comes.

Reply 58843 of 58849, by MattRocks

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Nicolas 2000 wrote on Yesterday, 07:50:
The Riva TNT 2 says just that on the chip, no Pro or anything. The card seems to be an OEM that I can't find on google. VRAM is […]
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The Riva TNT 2 says just that on the chip, no Pro or anything. The card seems to be an OEM that I can't find on google. VRAM is km432s2030ct-67 which is 32 bit?

Thanks for the insights! I'm not a parts collector (or don't want to be) so something being first or rare is not a reason in itself for me to keep it; my collection is limited to functioning PC's that should add an era of gaming without too much overlap. In this collection there is nothing to enhance my P4 XP system which already has a vastly more powerful GPU. And for my P3 W98 build, there is also nothing that touches the ti4200 in there, even within my DX7 limit. My DOS/early Windows build is a 486 DX50. But that only has ISA and VLB so nothing relevant in this lot. Those 3 PC's tend to give me a wide spectrum with very little overlap. I don't know if there would be any use case for me to add an early Pentium (100-200) as I can't think of many games that are too heavy for the 486 but don't run well on the P3. But, just in case, I'll keep one Matrox Millennium II PCI for myself (8MB model, oh yeah) so I have it available if I ever get an early Pentium. And the Hercules sound card just to have something for it. And I'll also keep one S3 Trio64V+ as they're worth little but so practical to have around as an "it just works" card. And I'll keep the MX440 (64 bit, boohoo) around as a somewhat powerful spare card for emergencies.

As for my spare P3 667 mobo, I'll configure it into a max compatibility W98-and-earlier system with what I have available. No ISA sound card in the bin, so I'll put in the Audigy2zs for W98 quality and the CT4810 to close any compatibility gaps (though so far, I've been able to make the Audigy work with all my DOS games). And for GPU I'll give it the MX460. Seems like a good match with the CPU power (I'll put in a 733). Add 256MB RAM to it and I think this is a config that can sell for enthusiasts.

So that means all the rest can go up for sale, I think. Not everything will sell but we'll see about that when time comes.

MX440 typically have 128bit VRAM, unless it's an SE variant?

I can't actually verify a TNT2 from that particular photo, but a regular original TNT2 would have 128bit VRAM.

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 58844 of 58849, by Nicolas 2000

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Most of the cards in this stack are lower tier OEM variants. So that's why a lot of them are not the spicey 128 bit version. The TNT2 says TNT2 on the gpu underneath the heatsink. I've determined them to be 64 bit variants based on VRAM config, but I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject. All the FX5200 also seem to be 64 bit versions.

Some cards were the good version, like the 8MB Millennium II PCI and the MX460.

Reply 58845 of 58849, by MattRocks

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Nicolas 2000 wrote on Yesterday, 09:21:

Most of the cards in this stack are lower tier OEM variants. So that's why a lot of them are not the spicey 128 bit version. The TNT2 says TNT2 on the gpu underneath the heatsink. I've determined them to be 64 bit variants based on VRAM config, but I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject. All the FX5200 also seem to be 64 bit versions.

Some cards were the good version, like the 8MB Millennium II PCI and the MX460.

.. and the TNT (TNT1). AFAIK, TNT are always 128bit configurations. In terms of performance, the older TNT sits above TNT2 64bit.

If I were reproducing a budget build authentically, I'd choose a "unsold stock at discount prices" TNT 128bit over a "new" TNT2 64bit 😉

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 58846 of 58849, by MattRocks

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Nicolas 2000 wrote on Yesterday, 09:21:

The TNT2 says TNT2 on the gpu underneath the heatsink.

That is not conclusive. The TNT2/TNT2 Pro/TNT2 Ultra are all the same TNT2 chip - it's just "binned" differently.

Binned means they was tested after manufacture and separated into three performance tiers, and higher binned chips were sometimes used on lower spec boards to meet order volumes - the chip alone won't tell how it performed in testing, and won't tell you how the board is configured.

The VRAM tells you more, but you need to count the total number of chips on the PCB and some PCBs are double sided.

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 58847 of 58849, by Nicolas 2000

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This TNT2 card has 4 VRAM chips, all on the front. No space for more. VRAM chips are SEC 922 KM432S2030CT-G7.

I can't find a brand on the card. PCB says HL1-V0 94V-0 9932. Sticker says DA836A-1110-0999. PCB also says 59-DA838-11000 V1.1.

Reply 58848 of 58849, by MattRocks

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Nicolas 2000 wrote on Yesterday, 10:26:

This TNT2 card has 4 VRAM chips, all on the front. No space for more. VRAM chips are SEC 922 KM432S2030CT-G7.

I can't find a brand on the card. PCB says HL1-V0 94V-0 9932. Sticker says DA836A-1110-0999. PCB also says 59-DA838-11000 V1.1.

4 chips × 32 bits = 128-bit bus.

That is still inconclusive because sometimes chips are not fully utilised - they might just have been used because that is what was available on a given day, but Samsung Electronics Co. (SEC) are not the cheapest chips to underutilise.

The fan provided might be aftermarket, but it does look like the PCB has a header to power a fan so the chip may never have been specced to run cool. Previous owner may simply have replaced a worn noisy fan.

Definitely worth checking with a utility because it is currently an unidentified card, and whatever it is - it's worth adding to the Retroweb archive.

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 58849 of 58849, by Nicolas 2000

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The fan has a molex and says "Intel Pentium", so yeah that one certainly is aftermarket. But it seems like it had one originally as well, as you say there's a header there for power.