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Reply 220 of 225, by gerwin

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Similar thing is happening with Fluidsynth... They talk about a workaround though.
"Please note: This *v2.4.7* is expected to be the last release for which precompiled WindowsXP binaries can be shipped! (See #1590)"
https://github.com/FluidSynth/fluidsynth/pull/1590

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Reply 221 of 225, by Srandista

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I'm quite surprised, that they were able to use XP compatible CI after end of June, other projects CI for WS2019 just stopped working at that date.

Anyway, for projects, that use GCC for compilation, XP (and even 9x) compatible builds are still working, and are expected to work for few years still (at least until Ubuntu 22.04 image is available on CI). Example of such projects are DevilutionX or Vanilla Conquer.

Socket 775 - ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA, Pentium E6500K, 4GB RAM, Radeon 9800XT, ESS Solo-1, Win 98/XP
Socket A - Chaintech CT-7AIA, AMD Athlon XP 2400+, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9600XT, ESS ES1869F, Win 98

Reply 222 of 225, by gerwin

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Srandista wrote on 2025-07-18, 14:24:

I'm quite surprised, that they were able to use XP compatible CI after end of June, other projects CI for WS2019 just stopped working at that date.

Anyway, for projects, that use GCC for compilation, XP (and even 9x) compatible builds are still working, and are expected to work for few years still (at least until Ubuntu 22.04 image is available on CI). Example of such projects are DevilutionX or Vanilla Conquer.

Yes the GNU tools don't have a hard cut-off point like Microsoft. But as time goes by, libraries add NT6-specific bits. As it is all open source, things can still be worked-around, but it takes effort.

I recently uploaded a few new Windows XP game builds:
- DevilutionX v1.6.0-dev from the source tree of yesterday, with per-pixel lightning feature. I know their intention is to release a Windows XP version when their v1.6.0 is ready, but it is taking a long time...
- TR1X v4.13.2 (Tomb Raider 1)
- TR2X v1.3.2 (Tomb Raider 2)
I re-build the earlier TRX versions from spring 2025, with a better method, and re-uploaded them.

Also prepared a CMake v3.28.6 (from June 3, 2024) that can run on Windows XP. I will add it to the page soon.

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Reply 223 of 225, by vico

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gerwin wrote on 2025-07-29, 15:14:
I recently uploaded a few new Windows XP game builds: - DevilutionX v1.6.0-dev from the source tree of yesterday, with per-pixel […]
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I recently uploaded a few new Windows XP game builds:
- DevilutionX v1.6.0-dev from the source tree of yesterday, with per-pixel lightning feature. I know their intention is to release a Windows XP version when their v1.6.0 is ready, but it is taking a long time...
- TR1X v4.13.2 (Tomb Raider 1)
- TR2X v1.3.2 (Tomb Raider 2)
I re-build the earlier TRX versions from spring 2025, with a better method, and re-uploaded them.

Are there minimum prerequisites for running TR1X-XPmod?
I've tried it on my 2.66GHz Pentium 4, 1.5GB of RAM, an FX 5700VE graphics card, and Windows XP SP3, but I haven't had any success with either version 2.07 or 4.13.2.

Reply 224 of 225, by gerwin

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vico wrote on 2025-08-03, 05:42:

Are there minimum prerequisites for running TR1X-XPmod?
I've tried it on my 2.66GHz Pentium 4, 1.5GB of RAM, an FX 5700VE graphics card, and Windows XP SP3, but I haven't had any success with either version 2.07 or 4.13.2.

Definitely yes. These Tomb Raider ports use OpenGL 3.3 and old drivers cannot handle that, or handle it poorly.
Intel HD graphics - I don't think it can work with the available Windows XP drivers.
AMD Radeon - Only the very last iCafe 2015 driver for Windows XP runs OpenGL 3.3 properly, and up to speed. Was tested to work on HD 5000 to 7000 series.
NVidia - I can say that a lowly Geforce GT 710 with Windows XP driver v344.75 works well.

Same goes for two other ports: The Force Engine in Hardware 3D mode and eDuke32 in OpenGL mode. (eDuke32 uses some OpenGL in software mode so Intel HD bugs out regardless)

I was already planning to add these remarks to my web-page.

For Tomb Raider 2 there is an older port/wrapper project. This one is less demanding on graphics' hardware and driver:
https://github.com/Arsunt/TR2Main

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Reply 225 of 225, by vico

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gerwin wrote on 2025-08-03, 19:16:
Definitely yes. These Tomb Raider ports use OpenGL 3.3 and old drivers cannot handle that, or handle it poorly. Intel HD grap […]
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Definitely yes. These Tomb Raider ports use OpenGL 3.3 and old drivers cannot handle that, or handle it poorly.
Intel HD graphics - I don't think it can work with the available Windows XP drivers.
AMD Radeon - Only the very last iCafe 2015 driver for Windows XP runs OpenGL 3.3 properly, and up to speed. Was tested to work on HD 5000 to 7000 series.
NVidia - I can say that a lowly Geforce GT 710 with Windows XP driver v344.75 works well.

Same goes for two other ports: The Force Engine in Hardware 3D mode and eDuke32 in OpenGL mode. (eDuke32 uses some OpenGL in software mode so Intel HD bugs out regardless)

I was already planning to add these remarks to my web-page.

For Tomb Raider 2 there is an older port/wrapper project. This one is less demanding on graphics' hardware and driver:
https://github.com/Arsunt/TR2Main

I'm going to try other options, Glidos for starters, thanks for the response.