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Demanding games for DOSBOX? *Conroe test*

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Reply 60 of 81, by red_avatar

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Are you kidding? Screamer 2 & Rally are perfectly smooth at highest details at hi-res for me 😜

Reply 61 of 81, by Neville

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Really? I had to lower the detail in both to get good speed in SVGA modes. I have an Athlon64 3400+, 1 Gb RAM and a ATI Radeon X700 video card.

What about "Comanche 3"? I posted some SVGA pics a while ago, but I've ended playing in VGA, as it is far more smooth.

Reply 62 of 81, by red_avatar

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Comanche 3 is perfect too. The AMD 64 3400+ is nothing compared to a Conroe E6600 though - it's easily 3 times faster for Dosbox - *and* has two cores.

Reply 63 of 81, by Neville

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You'd make a good Conroe salesman... but I don't even want to think the cost of a similar system. Apart from those titles I mentioned everything is smooth playing down here anyway.

Reply 64 of 81, by valnar

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I have many, many reasons to upgrade to a Conroe. This will cinch it. From this point forward folks, it's all gravy.

Robert

Reply 65 of 81, by red_avatar

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It cost me about $1000 to upgrade - that includes a new motherboard (one of the best), 2Gb of high-performance memory and of course the CPU (which I had for 8 months now and still hasn't come down in price, so good deal 😉 ). I sold my old mobo, CPU and memory for $450 so that makes it a cheap $550 for a system that is 4-5 times faster than my old one.

Reply 66 of 81, by VisitntX

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So the dosbox was programmed to use the two cores of dual core micros, that is wonderful. I didn't know that.

Reply 67 of 81, by Freddo

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VisitntX wrote:

So the dosbox was programmed to use the two cores of dual core micros, that is wonderful. I didn't know that.

It's not.

Reply 68 of 81, by red_avatar

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Nah it just uses one - but even one core is very powerful for Dosbox.

Reply 69 of 81, by VisitntX

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I know it, i was sarcastic. Sorry. He. Really i have made test and isn't too much diff between one core cpus and two cores cps if the programs aren't prepared for that. But who knows, maybe better config in mother and other hardware make it runs better.

Reply 70 of 81, by red_avatar

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The advantage of having a second core is that Windows Vista uses the second core for its processes while Dosbox uses the first - from what I observed anyway.

Reply 71 of 81, by VisitntX

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Well finally someone with a good point. It Is like a 20% or 25% of more resources for dosbox, right?

Reply 73 of 81, by red_avatar

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Well, it's easily 5%+ depending on what processes you got running. For example, I may very well be downloading files while using Dosbox, or chatting in MSN, having a browser window open which has a flash file somewhere playing (ads, tssk). Usually I have about 10% on one core. Also I used to get glitches while playing mp3s in Winamp while playing Dosbox games (I love playing Road To Hell while playing Doom for example) but with the second core taking care of this, this is no longer an issue. In fact, I never have any sound glitches anymore because sudden spikes will be compensated.

Reply 74 of 81, by VisitntX

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I see where is the gain. I will have to make some test with dual core chips and vista.

Reply 75 of 81, by pwWwa

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Hi There !
Did enybody test Carmageddon`s performance ?

Reply 76 of 81, by rcblanke

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It's kind of playable on my P4M 1,6Ghz Centrino laptop, splat pack is slightly worse. Should be great on a Conroe I suppose...

Reply 77 of 81, by Neville

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I'll throw in another suggestion: the DOS port of ZSNES. I tested it last week and works sweet in my Athlon64 3400 when it comes to 2D games.

But when I tried "F-Zero" or carts with built-in co-processors, like "Super Mario Kart" it was kinda slow.

Reply 78 of 81, by VisitntX

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Carmageddon runs sweet, but when you run it in hires the game isn't playable cuz is very slow.

Reply 79 of 81, by alvaro84

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Comanche 3 is perfect too. The AMD 64 3400+ is nothing compared to a Conroe E6600 though - it's easily 3 times faster for Dosbox - *and* has two cores.

When I read it more than a month ago it sounded like an overstatement, but I could not find any Dosbox benchmarks so I decided to do some myself. On Monday I built my Conroe-based rig, so the time has come.
I don't have any K8-based systems so I compared Conroe to the old K7 thoroughbred machine, I think the K8 is in-between.

Both systems are overclocked, though one can easily calculate clock-to-clock ratio from the results (there won't be a wide error margin). System specifics:

Old rig named "Redwing"
AMD Athlon XP Thoroughbred 2100+ 2222HMz (11*202MHz)
Asrock K7S8X-E, BIOS: 2004.09.15, memory: performance mode
2*512MB Infineon DDR-400 (2.5-3-3-5)
Gigabyte Radeon 9600pro (513/662MHz)

New rig named "Mushi"
Intel Core2 Duo E6420 Conroe 3200MHz (8*400MHz)
Gigabyte 965P-DS3P, BIOS: F5
2*1024MB GeIL Ultra DDR2-800 (4-4-4-12, "fast" preset)
MSI Geforce 8600GT (540/1400MHz)

* Dosbox * Ykhwong 0.70.2007.04.10, 1920*1200, D3D, SimpleAA shader, dynamic core, cycles=auto
test axp2.22 c2d-3.2g 3.31g
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AI_BENCH 2202 pt 3919 pt
Blood 640x480, startpos 19-20 fps 44-48 fps 46-50fps
Quake1, 320x200, timedemo 1 37.0 fps 98.0 fps
Quake1, 640x480, timedemo 1 17.3 fps 34.6 fps

The "3.31g" setting is still experimental, I haven't run all the benchmarks there. In AI_BENCH (a demo engine test with a spinning torus in 640*480) the Conroe is 26% better clock-to clock, in blood its advantage is 60% clock-to-clock, and it's 2.3x faster, which means a beautifulllly playable 640*480 Blood!
The biggest difference is in the 320*200 Quake test, where the core2 advantage is 84% normalized. I'd say it's impressive.

Last edited by alvaro84 on 2007-05-30, 17:29. Edited 1 time in total.

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