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Reply 20 of 31, by cyclone3d

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Here are the original V2.04 CD with v1.02 Sound disks.

Winimage 10 disk images:

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Reply 21 of 31, by multiplebaboons

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You are a life saver, cyclone3d. I was worried that this sound version would not work with the 4.00 install of the drive itself, but all is good. Thanks a whole bunch!

And the entertainment today will be Yann Tiersen, whose music sounds no different as a midi (the hum is mostly my AC, but there is a ton of background buzz coming out of this board): https://www.dropbox.com/s/beyv0onqndzj9p2/VID … 171407.mp4?dl=0 😀

Reply 23 of 31, by darry

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multiplebaboons wrote on 2022-07-09, 23:27:

You are a life saver, cyclone3d. I was worried that this sound version would not work with the 4.00 install of the drive itself, but all is good. Thanks a whole bunch!

And the entertainment today will be Yann Tiersen, whose music sounds no different as a midi (the hum is mostly my AC, but there is a ton of background buzz coming out of this board): https://www.dropbox.com/s/beyv0onqndzj9p2/VID … 171407.mp4?dl=0 😀

That is indeed quite similar. I have the soundtrack CD and while I have not done an A-B compatison, it does sound quite similar to my ears . Nice!

Reply 24 of 31, by multiplebaboons

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darry wrote on 2022-07-09, 23:53:

That is indeed quite similar. I have the soundtrack CD and while I have not done an A-B compatison, it does sound quite similar to my ears . Nice!

Hehe 😉 The girlfriend who is very slightly older than this Toshiba Satellite just provided her verdict: "a toy computer playing toy tunes."
Another example of a very midi-compatible "toy tune:" https://www.dropbox.com/s/3x1y1ep0kmt4nog/VID … 171151.mp4?dl=0

Reply 25 of 31, by AndrettiGTO

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cyclone3d wrote on 2022-07-09, 02:21:

Do the ones I posted near the beginning of the thread not work for you?

I noted earlier in this thread that the ones you initially posted worked on my 180200, allowing both the CD and sound to function properly.
Maybe those original drivers only works on the 180200 and not the 181200.
Anyone know the difference between these two models?

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Reply 26 of 31, by cyclone3d

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Pretty sure this is the last driver release:

The attachment pnp407d.zip is no longer available

Ans a list if the different drivers and utilities.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070325212958/htt … loads/index.asp

Pretty sure the CD drive is just a different speed between the 180200 and 181200. Here is the supported model list for the 4.07 \ 4.17 driver. I'll see what driver versions and additional information I can fins about the drive speeds for the ones that aren't listed.

(180200 doesn't list the drive speed on the box. 181200 is 24x and says that is can read CD-R/W disks). This makes me think that the 180200 and older models may have issues with CD-R/W disks.

  • Released October 10, 2003. Version 4.07 backpack Plug and Play driver (v4.17.00 for WinNT4). Installs latest backpack driver support for Windows 95, 98, Me, 2000, XP and NT4. Automatically replaces any previous backpack driver installations. Use this Installer/Uninstaller for all backpack rewriter, DVD/CD-ROM and bantam models. Also supports backpack 8000t, pd/cd, and backpack Hard Drives*. Download, then Double-click to install...no SETUP files required! (SIZE: 1412KB)


    This installation program supports Windows 95, 98, Me, 2000, XP and NT4.

    Backpack Plug and Play Software Compatibility List for Win95/98/Me/2000/XP
    All of the following products are supported:

    Backpack Plug and Play Software Compatibility List for Win95/98/Me/2000/XP
    All of the following products are supported:
    Model	Product Name	Serial # Prefix	 
    142150 Backpack 8000t 141
    152010 Backpack 1.2GB Hard Drive 201
    152020 Backpack 1.6GB Hard Drive 202
    152030 Backpack 2.1GB Hard Drive 205
    152040 Backpack 3.1GB Hard Drive 206
    152050 Backpack 6.4GB Hard Drive 207
    152060 Backpack 8.4GB Hard Drive 208
    153010 Backpack 8.4GB w/PC Card 209
    153015 Backpack 20GB w/PC Card 214 or 234
    154015 Backpack 20GB w/USB Adapter 215 or 235
    154030 Backpack 30GB w/USB Adapter 236 or 264
    154040 Backpack 40GB w/USB Adapter 231
    155010 Backpack 40GB w/USB2 237, 245 or 268
    155015 Backpack 80GB w/USB2 238, 246 or 263
    156020 Backpack 120GB Hard Drive w/USB2 Adapter 269
    152210 Backpack 210MB Hard Drive 222
    152420 Backpack 420MB Hard Drive 224
    152850 Backpack 850MB Hard Drive 285
    163550 Backpack 2x CD 163
    163700 Backpack 2x CD/sound 167
    164550 Backpack 4x CD 164 or 174
    164700 Backpack 4x CD/sound 165
    165550 Backpack 6x CD 169
    165700 Backpack 6x CD/sound 170
    166550 Backpack 8x CD 171 or 179
    166700 Backpack 8x CD/sound 172
    167700 Backpack 32x CD/sound 181
    167550 Backpack 32x CD 180
    170550 Backpack PD/CD 173
    170700 Backpack PD/CD/sound 175
    180100 Backpack bantam 176
    180200 Backpack bantam/sound 177
    181100 Backpack 24x bantam 182
    181100 Backpack 24x bantam 190
    181150 Backpack 24x bantam/Pccard 189
    181200 Backpack 24x bntm/snd 183
    185100 Backpack bntm cd-rw 4x4x24/PCCard 195
    185150 Backpack bntm cd-rw 8x8x24/PCCard 229
    186100 Backpack bntm cdrw 16x10x24/triple play 220 or 247
    190100 Backpack 2x2x6 1840
    190100 Backpack cdrw 2x2x6 1841
    190120 Backpack cdrw 4x2x6 185
    190126 Backpack cdrw 4x2x6 186
    190127 Backpack cdrw 4x2x8 187
    190130 Backpack cdrw 4x4x24 192, 199, or 219
    191100 Backpack cdrw 4x4x24/Pccard 194
    192100 Backpack cdrw 4x4x24/USB 212 or 232
    193200 Backpack cdrw 8x4x32/triple play 216
    193250 Backpack cdrw 8x8x32/triple play 217
    191210 Backpack cdrw 12x10x32/USB2 233 or 933
    195200 Backpack cdrw 32x10x40/triple/USB2 223
    194200 Backpack cdrw 32x10x40/parallel/USB2 225
    195215 Backpack cdrw 40x12x40/triple/USB2 243
    194215 Backpack cdrw 40x12x40/parallel/USB2 244
    200010 Backpack DVD/CD-ROM parallel/USB2 239
    200010 Backpack 16xDVD-ROM 48xCD/parallel/USB2 239
    210010 Backpack bantam DVD/CD-ROM parallel/USB2 241
    194150 Backpack cdrw 16x10x24/parallel/USB2 242
    212010 Backpack cdrw/DVD-ROM 24x12x24x8/triple play 248
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    220010	Backpack cdrw/DVD-ROM 48x24x48x16/parallel/USB2	249	 
    222010 Backpack cdrw 48x24x48/parallel/USB2 251
    221010 Backpack 16xDVD-ROM 48xCD/parallel/USB2 250
    232010 Backpack cdrw 48x24x48/triple/USB2 253
    201005 Backpack 52x CD-ROM/parallel/USB2 254
    222011 Backpack cdrw 52x24x52/parallel/USB2 256
    222011 Backpack cdrw 52x24x52 triple play 257
    222102 Backpack cdrw 52x24x52x/USB2 260
    232011 Backpack cdrw 52x24x52/triple/USB2 257
    222011 Backpack cdrw 52x24x52/parallel/USB2 256
    212010 Backpack bantam 8xDVD-ROM 24x10x24x cdrw 248
    220010 Backpack 16xDVD-ROM 48x24x48x cdrw 249
    224010 Backpack DVD±RW 4x/2.4x/USB2 252
    224101 Backpack DVD+RW 4x/2.4x/USB2 262
    224011 Backpack DVDąRW 8x/4x/USB2 304
    222103 Backpack CD-RW 52x32x52/USB2 305
    222012 Backpack CD-RW 52x32x52/parallel/USB2 306
    232012 Backpack CD-RW 52x32x52/triple/USB2 308
    836 Backpack PC Card 193
    839 Backpack USB Adapter 213
    840 Backpack High Speed USB2 Adapter 218
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Reply 27 of 31, by multiplebaboons

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I'm tempted to try it, but one of those much newer drivers just stopped working on my laptop out of nowhere. The drive was gone with "driver was not loaded" in the device manager. After uninstalling and installing the older drivers things are back to operational.

Here is a general question... Seems like there's just a generic CD drive inside the 164x enclosure. Do you guys think replacing it would work?

Reply 28 of 31, by cyclone3d

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Yeah, it should just be a standard drive. Not sure if it is IDE or another 40-pin like Panasonic or Mitsumi.

Looking up the model number of the installed drive should clear that right up though.

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Reply 29 of 31, by Xeen

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I got one "181100 Backpack 24x bantam 182" or "181100 Backpack 24x bantam 190" without power adapter, does anyone know how can I find a substitute?

Reply 30 of 31, by knightcrusader

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multiplebaboons wrote on 2022-07-11, 01:44:

Here is a general question... Seems like there's just a generic CD drive inside the 164x enclosure. Do you guys think replacing it would work?

cyclone3d wrote on 2022-07-11, 02:52:

Yeah, it should just be a standard drive. Not sure if it is IDE or another 40-pin like Panasonic or Mitsumi.

I wouldn't be too hopeful, as I have tried with one of the Bantam models I have where the drive is malfunctioning and keeps ejecting itself open. It has an IDE interface, and I have tried multiple different drives both the same brand and period correct, and some newer... none of them will initialize. I don't know what they did to the firmware or the drive but the drivers are looking for something. In the attempts I tried, the computer would hang whenever it was connected or booted up with it connected. Frustrating for sure.

However, I have heard of people with the full size units talking about replacing their drives so maybe the full size backpacks don't have the same issue? I just know the Bantams can't.

Reply 31 of 31, by Errius

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The Bantam 181100/181200 both use the TEAC CD-224E-903 drive.

Take care when opening the case, because it's easy to break it. These things were not designed for ease of disassembly.

Is this too much voodoo?