Totempole wrote:

As long as the SB0220 works under XP, I'm happy. 😀

I just checked and the other card I have is the retail CT4670. Are the CT4830 and CT4870 OEM or retail?

I also have an SB0570 which is apparently Audigy SE. Looks remarkably similar to an SB Live! 24-Bit

AFAIK, CT4670 and CT4780 are the retail versions of Live! Value, while the CT4830 and CT4870 are the OEM versions of Live! Value that are fully compatible in terms of EAX processing (EMU10k1 chip) and with the retail VxD/WDM drivers. From various driver descriptions I've also seen the numbers 4831 4832 4850 4871 4872, but not sure what the differences are.

EDIT: Ah, I guess you better check here, from their own mother: http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=10846

And you can use kX driver to get SB220 working in 7 iirc, but not the half-size cards without an EMU10K1/EMU10K2 chip (like the Live! 24-bit or Audigy SE).

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

I don't think the Audigy and Audigy 2 works under W98 though.

They do work in 9x! Well, 98SE & Me that is. Even the A2 ZS does work out of the box, with the drivers in the CD that comes with it.

Audigy SE, OTOH, doesn't have the EMU10Kx chip and the EAX support is only software-based. So my recommendations is that you get at least an Audigy1 (SB0090) for EAX 3 (AdvancedHD).

AlphaWing wrote:

But do you get Audio HQ with those in 9x? I know the audigy 1 doesn't and neither do the sblives!
The downloadable 2k\XP drivers do contain Ahq. Atleast for the sblives!

What does Audio HQ do?

At least under XP, with the web drivers I can access all the important stuff like EAX, CMSS-3D...

AHQ lets you control your soundfonts which synth channel your using, amount of sounds heard and what eax effects, get applied to what, and speaker settings.

This thing.

I remember installing Audigy SB0090 OEM on Win Me and the driver/software CD was pretty complete (same as retail version CD iirc). I'll check if I still have that CD.

If it looks like the yellow cd's above it has most of the 5.1 oem drivers on it too.

Arrgh, can't find it yet, who moved my cheese, er, CDs?!!! 😠

I'm 100% sure it's the blue one like the disc in the left here: http://www.mysuperpc.com/pc_assembly/sound_bl … er_contents.jpg

I don't have that one so I can't tell you if it has the 5.1 drivers, all my Audigys are OEM, from comp shows unfortunately.

AlphaWing wrote:

But do you get Audio HQ with those in 9x? I know the audigy 1 doesn't and neither do the sblives!
The downloadable 2k\XP drivers do contain Ahq. Atleast for the sblives!

With the iso i use i get Audio Hq in Windows 98 for my sb 0220

@Nahkri
So does the SB0220 work good for win9x and DOS games (under win98 at least)?
That would be good as it actually has EMU10K1 chip (unlike SB020x) and seems to be pretty common (and very cheap).

Had a look and I got four live! cards:

Live! 5.1 SB0100
2x CT4830
CT4780

archsan wrote:

@Nahkri
So does the SB0220 work good for win9x and DOS games (under win98 at least)?
That would be good as it actually has EMU10K1 chip (unlike SB020x) and seems to be pretty common (and very cheap).

For windows it works fine,get's picked up by games that use eax,for dos i haven't tried.

Seems only 1 of my four cards work. With 2 the machine doesn't post and 1 doesn't get detected.

The 100 is the only one that works. The disc FIRTASIK uploaded works fine 😀

archsan wrote:

So does the SB0220 work good for win9x and DOS games (under win98 at least)?

I've tried the Firtasik iso, thanks, and the sound blaster 16 emulation driver is not installed. Trying to install the ini manually does nothing. So i'm afraid sb0220 has no sound at all for dos games, apparently it's such a crappy card. You get the poor and useless windows 98 emulation instead, same as my via integrated audio.
EDIT: It's even worse, the installer installed the WDM drivers and then i installed the VXD drivers from the drivers folder but these are not working with DirectX so only basic sound in windows. This card is not even compatible with VXD drivers, avoid! (FIXED)
EDIT2: At least i can get music in doom using general midi but with distorted sfx. Also only sfx in wolf3d and no opl emulation. In real dos with livedos.zip and 2mg4.ecw i only get sfx but no music in doom but i get full sound in wolf3d.
EDIT3:fixed real dos, midi volume was set to zero in mixer. But music worked in wolf3d and was wavetable. If i select sound blaster in doom i get slow music with the opl emulation and heavily distorted sound, this is a 2 ghz pentium 4 and the mobo has a via p4x266 chipset.
EDIT4:the directx installation was screwed, i reinstalled directx and that fixed the directsound problem but i changed the sound card, the live is now on another machine. I still need to test the sb16 emulation on that rig.