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First post, by Iris030380

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I gather they are CPU socket "risers" but what are they for? Where do the connect to? Are they useful to anyone?

Found a lot of them in a massive box of old CPU's, as well as some other weird stuff...

Any help appreciated!

iris

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Reply 1 of 24, by derSammler

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Socket 370 to Slot 1 adapters.

Reply 2 of 24, by Iris030380

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OMG I didn't even know I had these until this afternoon. I should open boxes more often.

Problem is my friend used to feed me boxes of vintage / retro parts from his computer shop and after a while I just started putting them in the wardrobe. I mainly collected GPU's but somehow ended up with so much more...

Thanks derSammler

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Reply 3 of 24, by user33331

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Sad thing is there are only a few Pentium II\III slot-1(or 370) motherboards which are in fully working condition.
- I have many motherboards but all have exploded capacitors. Good luck in changing 20+pcs of caps 😢
- I then bought a "restored" socket A motherboard online and even it had at least 1pc of cap replaced.
- Soon those slot-1 adapters will be pretty much useless.

Reply 4 of 24, by treeman

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20 capacitors.... maybye 30 minutes work

Reply 5 of 24, by user33331

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That would be a dream but nobody offers here a cap fixing service in Finland.
- Back in the 1980-90s maybe but all those electronic repair shops bankrupted or ended their business in the 2000s. ( Thanks to modern unrepairable disposable electronic designs.)
- I bet they would charge around 100+euros for replacing all 24pcs caps in a Abit P3 motherboard even if I have bought all the new caps myself.

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Reply 6 of 24, by treeman

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well I can't comment on Finland.... in Australia there is always places that do soldering work on all types of electronics tv, computer, mobile phones etc its a matter looking in the right place and its something that is still quiet in demand. As for the price I guess you pay good money for labour on any non general skill.

Having said that electrolytic capacitor replacement is not a very difficult skill to master, still quiet alot of p3/p4 motherboards around and still cheap compared to 386/486 boards which are now slowly drying up

Also I believe the converters are called slotket I still got my original with a pentium 933 socket 370 cpu which I had running at 1.1 ghz years ago

Reply 7 of 24, by user33331

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I have a 386 motherboard from 1990 and it has zero=0 capacitors.
Working 100% original and no fixes made. So no worry about caps drying or leaking.
Wondering what breaks in 386 if not leaking cmos batteries or caps ?

Reply 8 of 24, by treeman

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it probably does have capacitors just different type, there is many types. You probably just associate the look of a electrolytic capacitor, but there is tantalum the round yellow balloon looking shapes and smd capacitors which are the small square chips.

Everything degrades with time unfortunately, I find on 386/486 boards alot of the solder joints crack or go bad or the traces crack somwhere internally from the board being flexed 1 too many times over the years

Reply 9 of 24, by Murugan

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I agree. I have 2 identical 386 PC's, no electrolytic caps, but SMD tantalums and some popped. Also one board has issues when I tighten the screws all the way down so probably cracked/bad solder.

My retro collection: too much...

Reply 10 of 24, by user33331

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Yep no "cylinder"-styled caps. Probably those tiny smd capacitors.
- Interesting thing is it has worked for 30 years in 2020 which is the longest living PC I have owned ( and no fixings done to it.)

Reply 11 of 24, by Murugan

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Praise yourself lucky 😀

My retro collection: too much...

Reply 12 of 24, by konc

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user33331 wrote:

I have a 386 motherboard from 1990 and it has zero=0 capacitors.

I'm pretty sure it has a lot of fireworks, just not electrolytic capacitors.

Reply 13 of 24, by treeman

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haha wear safety glasses if working with a open case

Reply 14 of 24, by an81

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treeman wrote:

20 capacitors.... maybye 30 minutes work

you must be kidding

Reply 15 of 24, by user33331

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Funny thing is that even 1989 Nintendo Gameboys still work.
Those Japan made caps are excellent.

Reply 16 of 24, by derSammler

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user33331 wrote:

- I have many motherboards but all have exploded capacitors. Good luck in changing 20+pcs of caps 😢

Apart from the fact that replacing 20 caps is easy and takes maybe one hour (did 30+ in less), it has nothing to do with Slot 1 / S370 mainboards. Back then, there were bad caps produced that ended up almost everywhere. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Reply 17 of 24, by Deksor

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So far I've only had one slot 1 mobo with bad caps, and it was an easy fix, I just took the caps from another dead board and I transplanted them to the slot 1. It's not in my possession anymore, but I know it still works. Fixing caps is super easy. I'm more concerned by these leaky batteries that are slowly eating our 286/386 and 486s. Old caps are annoying but can often be fixed. Battery leakage, not always ... And when it's fixable it's often time consuming.

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Reply 18 of 24, by Iris030380

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Hi guys. If they are of use to anyone please let me know. I don't know if they work but they look to be in perfect condition, front and back. I'm deep in the process of offloading all my retro parts save a handful of beloved projects. I have some other strange and wonderful looking things so as I find em I'll be asking more identify questions, most likely!

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Reply 19 of 24, by SETBLASTER

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those are slockets

to use socket370 cpus on slot1 motherboards