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Weird Issue With RTL8139 in Windows 98

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Reply 20 of 48, by Figgy2112

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Hmm is there anyway I could like replace all the networking files in 98 se bc it seeems like a os problem not a hardware problem

Reply 21 of 48, by myne

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Updated it to the Max?
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Reply 22 of 48, by Figgy2112

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myne wrote on 2024-10-25, 12:01:

Updated it to the Max?
Windowsupdaterestored.com

I already did that wayyy before this happened

Reply 23 of 48, by Figgy2112

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Moore is there a way I can reset all my windows stuff without losing the files I have installed?

Reply 24 of 48, by Figgy2112

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I completely reinstalled windows and even moved my card to a different slot and it still isn’t fucking working. I’m so damn confused.

Reply 25 of 48, by Figgy2112

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Could be because I had a bad CD so I’m trying a hard drive install

Reply 26 of 48, by Figgy2112

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Hmmm well I’m back to where I started, but now the Internet connection sharing has a error about not being able to load NDIS.VXD Code 2

Reply 27 of 48, by Figgy2112

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Still nothing working

Reply 28 of 48, by Figgy2112

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Is the card itself failing to the point where it doesn’t have a problem with anything but 98

Reply 29 of 48, by myne

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Try dos ndis drivers.
It'll be slower, but if it works, 98 will run fine.

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Reply 30 of 48, by Figgy2112

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myne wrote on 2024-10-27, 01:41:

Try dos ndis drivers.
It'll be slower, but if it works, 98 will run fine.

How would I do that??
Also, it seems it says it updates the ndis driver in the readme of the driver pack I’m using, could that be the problem, I’m using a card with a Realtek 8139D chip specifically is there like a more optimal driver I can use

Reply 31 of 48, by myne

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Oh. Probably wrong driver then.

Try this
http://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=8 … &menustate=35,0

BTW, when it boots, hit pause when you see the plug and play list.

You should see a list of vendors/device ids.

One should be 10ec (realtek) and dev... 8139?
If not what exactly is it?

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Reply 32 of 48, by Figgy2112

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So I tried doing a DOS driver and also found a few other drivers and it still wouldn’t work

Reply 33 of 48, by Figgy2112

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Could that ndis driver update that the first driver installed somehow fuck up the entire Internet system

Reply 34 of 48, by Figgy2112

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I did find a promising self extracting driver for specifically the D class from 2008 that supports 98SE specifically

Reply 35 of 48, by Figgy2112

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I’ve been at this for three straight days, five clean installation of windows and 20 different fucking drivers and it’s still not working, WHAT THE FUCK

Reply 36 of 48, by Figgy2112

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And it’s only 98 every other operating system works fine, at this point could be my fucking SSD? Like idk

Reply 37 of 48, by Figgy2112

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There’s no reason why DOS, WFW 3.11, 95, NT 4, ME, 2K, XP and even OS2 Warp 4 all work but not 98

Reply 38 of 48, by Figgy2112

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The only difference is that I’m running 98 on a single SSD while others are on multi boot systems on other HDD‘s, I have

Reply 39 of 48, by ratfink

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It's maddening when this kind of thing happens.

- Just to be clear as it's a long thread: is 98se reporting the card is working (yet you don't get a connection) or is it saying the card has a problem?

- if windows is saying it's working, then go through your network connection settings as maybe there's an issue there with protocols and settings etc, IP address allocations and whatnot

- if windows says the adapter not working or there's a conflict... then I would suggest the following -

- check device manager for conflicts

- confirm that your other OSs still get a network connection when you boot them

- Is there anything else about this board that could conceivably be causing an issue - does it have weird things like CNR slots that you can disable?

- Is there any possibility this is BIOS related - eg try clearing/resetting the bios, is the bios up to date

- Boot into safe mode and delete anything in device manager that shouldn't be there (old drivers left over) - I don't use 98SE but if you can search for "hidden devices" in normal mode then do that too (doesn't seem to be an option in 98 so maybe that's a 2k/xp feature).

If none of that helps - start all over with a simple basic system:

- Try to simplify the system as much as possible: disconnect the drive with all the others OSs, disable anything you don't need in the bios (serial, printer ports and any onboard stuffyou won't use), remove any expansion cards except video and the NIC.

- If you think it could be the SSD somehow then can you try another drive in its place. Especially as you said it's the only difference.

- Wipe the drive (now the only one in the system) and start by installing 95 as you said that works on your current setup. Does ethernet work, can you connect to whatever you want to connect to.

- If that works then wipe the drive and install 98SE, see what happens and troubleshoot from there.