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Reply 20 of 31, by HaswellCertifiedLvr

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If I were you, these parts would be good enough for older Windows 7 gaming:
ASRock H410M-H/M.2 SE (Socket 1200 board with Intel H370 chipset, asrock moment 🤣)
Core i3-10100F (4 cores, but more than enough for older games)
GTX 1650 Super / RTX 3050 6GB
8 GB RAM is enough considering most 2007-2012 games are basically 32-bit

Reply 21 of 31, by Horun

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Hmm I think some forgot the OP's request/comment on "period correct" that excludes anything newer than about 2012/2013.. just sayin

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Reply 22 of 31, by swaaye

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DrAnthony wrote on 2024-11-16, 22:36:

It's interesting though, I feel nostalgia going just a tiny bit further back (say XP on my old Athlon X2 3200+) but I don't feel it for 7. I absolutely loved the build I used from that era (Phenom II X4 955 and a Radeon 4850) and it's still perfectly functional sitting in my basement, but it's also running windows 10 and had an SSD popped in so it just feels....modern~ish I'd say.

Oh I agree. It's hard to feel nostalgia for something that functions essentially the same as a modern machine. Even a graphics card from 2009 is very similar to modern cards. Motherboard audio is the same 24-bit Intel HD standard. GbE networking. 802.11n. Etc.

It's 15 years ago. In 2009 a 15 year old PC was a DOS/Win3.1 PC with a <500 MB hard drive, potentially only dumb framebuffer VGA, and maybe 8-bit audio (or PC speaker)! Let me dial into my PPP connection and load up Trumpet Winsock so I can check out this WWW thing on my hot new 28.8 modem! 😀

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Reply 23 of 31, by Joseph_Joestar

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Horun wrote on 2024-11-17, 06:01:

Hmm I think some forgot the OP's request/comment on "period correct" that excludes anything newer than about 2012/2013.. just sayin

Because Windows 8 came out in 2012? I don't think that disqualifies later hardware from being used with Win7, since it had mainstream support until 2015, and extended support all the way up to 2020 (even longer for enterprise releases). Also, many people disliked Win8 due to its weird "metro" interface, and didn't upgrade until Windows 10 came out.

For me, Win7 works best for gaming during the 2010-2015 time period. It also nicely covers the 2007-2009 Vista transitional years, since some DirectX 10 titles were released around that time. However, from 2016 onward, games (slowly) started using DirectX 12, so people needed to upgrade their OS if they wanted to use the full capabilities of newer GPUs.

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Reply 24 of 31, by Shponglefan

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Horun wrote on 2024-11-17, 06:01:

Hmm I think some forgot the OP's request/comment on "period correct" that excludes anything newer than about 2012/2013.. just sayin

I used Windows 7 up until 2017. Anything from late 2000's to late 2010's could be considered period correct for Win7.

Windows 7 was an OS with a fairly long lifespan, similar to XP.

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Reply 25 of 31, by Jo22

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swaaye wrote on 2024-11-17, 06:02:
DrAnthony wrote on 2024-11-16, 22:36:

It's interesting though, I feel nostalgia going just a tiny bit further back (say XP on my old Athlon X2 3200+) but I don't feel it for 7. I absolutely loved the build I used from that era (Phenom II X4 955 and a Radeon 4850) and it's still perfectly functional sitting in my basement, but it's also running windows 10 and had an SSD popped in so it just feels....modern~ish I'd say.

Oh I agree. It's hard to feel nostalgia for something that functions essentially the same as a modern machine. Even a graphics card from 2009 is very similar to modern cards. Motherboard audio is the same 24-bit Intel HD standard. GbE networking. 802.11n. Etc.

It's 15 years ago. In 2009 a 15 year old PC was a DOS/Win3.1 PC with a <500 MB hard drive, potentially only dumb framebuffer VGA, and maybe 8-bit audio (or PC speaker)! Let me dial into my PPP connection and load up Trumpet Winsock so I can check out this WWW thing on my hot new 28.8 modem! 😀

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In my country, we still used primarily BBSes and online services at the time.
Such as AOL (late), CompuServe, T-Online (aka BTX, Datex-J) and so on.
France used Minitel/Teletel, while other countries had GEnie and Prodigy I think.

Banks, ATMs and power grids had their own networks, I think.
A business network in my country was Datex-P service, which used networks based on X.25 protocol (the older rival of TCP/IP).

They were based on the predecessor technology to internet, in principle.
They operated on virtual connections based on the old telephone infrastructure of 20th century.
ISDN was also using X.25 protocol, but didn't last very long unfortunately.

Thinking about it, I think that early 90s and late 90s were a different world really.
In early 90s you still had 80s fashion, music, kids playing Tetris on their Gameboys and beige ~25 MHz PCs running DOS,
wereas late 90s was about hipsters, Playstation and Pentium II PCs with a DVD drive and Windows 98. 😉

Shponglefan wrote on 2024-11-17, 11:57:
Horun wrote on 2024-11-17, 06:01:

Hmm I think some forgot the OP's request/comment on "period correct" that excludes anything newer than about 2012/2013.. just sayin

I used Windows 7 up until 2017. Anything from late 2000's to late 2010's could be considered period correct for Win7.

Windows 7 was an OS with a fairly long lifespan, similar to XP.

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Though there's one thing to care of, maybe. Graphics hardware that has WDM 1.1 drivers (recommended).
WDM 1.0 was used by Vista and didn't support 2D acceleration (GDI).
When running Windows 7 with the older graphics driver model, a copy of video data is kept in system memory, causing a higher memory usage.

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Reply 26 of 31, by Shponglefan

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2024-11-17, 06:34:

Because Windows 8 came out in 2012? I don't think that disqualifies later hardware from being used with Win7, since it had mainstream support until 2015, and extended support all the way up to 2020 (even longer for enterprise releases). Also, many people disliked Win8 due to its weird "metro" interface, and didn't upgrade until Windows 10 came out.

This was that period where it was common to skip Windows releases. I went from 98 -> XP -> Win7 -> Win10, while skipping Me, Vista, and Win8/8.1.

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Reply 27 of 31, by HaswellCertifiedLvr

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Horun wrote on 2024-11-17, 06:01:

Hmm I think some forgot the OP's request/comment on "period correct" that excludes anything newer than about 2012/2013.. just sayin

Whoops my bad. If anything I would go with a Phenom II X4 965 and a Radeon HD 5870 for an old period-correct Windows 7 gaming machine.
One of the best specs you can get at Windows 7's release.

Reply 28 of 31, by VivienM

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Horun wrote on 2024-11-17, 06:01:

Hmm I think some forgot the OP's request/comment on "period correct" that excludes anything newer than about 2012/2013.. just sayin

I think period correct is longer than that. Business laptops still shipped with 7 in 2015 or even 2016. I remember in 2016 most Lenovo ThinkPad SKUs in stock were 7 preloads; if you wanted 10 preloaded, you had to order other SKUs that were far less plentiful.

In fact one reason Microsoft/Intel killed 7 support on the 7th-gen processors was because they wanted to stop this.

Reply 29 of 31, by BitWrangler

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I would consider an i7-2600K setup, with HD5870 or GTX580 to be one of the windows 7 gamer classics.

Personally though, for what is in hand here, I'm probably going to go with one intel config with i7-860 and 560Ti and one AMD config with Phenom II X6 1090T and HD5850 or 6870.

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Reply 30 of 31, by Cyfrifiadur

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"Period correct" for Windows 7 is a strange one, isn't it!

My Win7 rig seems to be a little older than many are suggesting with its 2011 CPU, and it's LGA 1366-based, but it handles 1440p games very well up to around 2015, and still feels more interesting and arcane than a newer selection:

Core i7-990x, Rampage III Extreme Black, 24GB DDR3, GTX Titan 6GB.
Basic SATA SSD, X-Fi Fatal1ty Champion, dedicated Physx GPU.

I do tend to run GPUs that are a couple of years newer than the rest of the components on average, and for this build I keep changing my mind between GTX Titan and GTX 690...

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Reply 31 of 31, by leileilol

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funniest period correct thread by far considering my main was a period correct win7 rig until 3 years ago. The combination of hardware failure, discontinued driver support, and the MSVCRT backstab had to force a sunset on it.

but yeah, the 'wells,. 'bridges and 'lakes are what you want, but i'd advise being extra weird and use those intel IGPs because they can dither!!!!!!! and they do 320x240 modes!!! intel graphics peaked here!!!!

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