Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-26, 14:23:

Gmlb256 wrote on 2024-12-26, 14:21:

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-26, 13:59:

ok try to have a look at the new pics i just posted, please tell me what kind of model it could be

It is the CT2950, the label can be seen on the top left of the sound card.

ok thanks, will it work with the unisound drivers or needs something specific?

It will work with UNISOUND.

Otherwise, you will be needing official SB16 DOS drivers with the CTCM utility.

ok tried the value pnp driver, nothing changed

the unisound instead works, but only for sound, no midi music comes from the game

Gmlb256 wrote on 2024-12-26, 14:36:

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-26, 14:23:

Gmlb256 wrote on 2024-12-26, 14:21:

It is the CT2950, the label can be seen on the top left of the sound card.

ok thanks, will it work with the unisound drivers or needs something specific?

It will work with UNISOUND.

Otherwise, you will be needing official SB16 DOS drivers with the CTCM utility.

the unisound instead works, but only for sound, no midi music comes from the game

tried the ct2950 drivers that are here on the site (even if it says spanish only) but still no go, but after that i tried again unisound and this time i have sound and music. SO basically i have to do it everytime i need to run a dos game (from dos itself)

I have a CT2940 which is essentially the same... You need to install the CTCM package (to initiate the PNP card), then the SB16 package (for mixer and diagnose). My Autoexec.bat looks like this:

REM *** Sound Blaster 16 PNP ***
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
SET CTCM=C:\SB16\CTC (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\CTC\CTCM.exe (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q

As you can see, CTCM needs to be called before diagnose and mixerset.

Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-27, 15:03:

I have a CT2940 which is essentially the same... You need to install the CTCM package (to initiate the PNP card), then the SB16 […]
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I have a CT2940 which is essentially the same... You need to install the CTCM package (to initiate the PNP card), then the SB16 package (for mixer and diagnose). My Autoexec.bat looks like this:

REM *** Sound Blaster 16 PNP ***
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
SET CTCM=C:\SB16\CTC (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\CTC\CTCM.exe (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q

As you can see, CTCM needs to be called before diagnose and mixerset.

ah i see, yes i have installed those drivers in the roders you put, but i will have to see if autoexec is like this. thanks will try it asap

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-28, 17:10:

Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-27, 15:03:

I have a CT2940 which is essentially the same... You need to install the CTCM package (to initiate the PNP card), then the SB16 […]
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I have a CT2940 which is essentially the same... You need to install the CTCM package (to initiate the PNP card), then the SB16 package (for mixer and diagnose). My Autoexec.bat looks like this:

REM *** Sound Blaster 16 PNP ***
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
SET CTCM=C:\SB16\CTC (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\CTC\CTCM.exe (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q

As you can see, CTCM needs to be called before diagnose and mixerset.

ah i see, yes i have installed those drivers in the order you put, but i will have to see if autoexec is like this. thanks will try it asap

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-28, 17:10:

Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-27, 15:03:

I have a CT2940 which is essentially the same... You need to install the CTCM package (to initiate the PNP card), then the SB16 […]
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I have a CT2940 which is essentially the same... You need to install the CTCM package (to initiate the PNP card), then the SB16 package (for mixer and diagnose). My Autoexec.bat looks like this:

REM *** Sound Blaster 16 PNP ***
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
SET CTCM=C:\SB16\CTC (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\CTC\CTCM.exe (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q

As you can see, CTCM needs to be called before diagnose and mixerset.

ah i see, yes i have installed those drivers in the roders you put, but i will have to see if autoexec is like this. thanks will try it asap

Sorry I Remember that driver installation have me this error before going on and installing anyway see the screen attached

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-28, 17:22:

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-28, 17:10:

Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-27, 15:03:

I have a CT2940 which is essentially the same... You need to install the CTCM package (to initiate the PNP card), then the SB16 […]
Show full quote

I have a CT2940 which is essentially the same... You need to install the CTCM package (to initiate the PNP card), then the SB16 package (for mixer and diagnose). My Autoexec.bat looks like this:

REM *** Sound Blaster 16 PNP ***
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
SET CTCM=C:\SB16\CTC (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\CTC\CTCM.exe (by default, it's in a folder called C:\CTCM, I changed it)
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q

As you can see, CTCM needs to be called before diagnose and mixerset.

ah i see, yes i have installed those drivers in the roders you put, but i will have to see if autoexec is like this. thanks will try it asap

Sorry I Remember that driver installation have me this error before going on and installing anyway see the screen attached

Are you running this in PURE DOS (aka "Restart into MS-DOS mode") or directly within Windows 98?

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-26, 15:04:

the unisound instead works, but only for sound, no midi music comes from the game

Are you using a MIDI daughterboard or external module? The SB16's MIDI support is just the MPU401 side that sends the signal to a module which generates the audio.

You'll need to unmute the MIDI daughterboard or Line-In channels if you are using those. By default they are normally muted to removed static. You can do that with Unisound switches to set the volumes any channel on the card.

SScorpio wrote on 2024-12-28, 21:18:

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-26, 15:04:

the unisound instead works, but only for sound, no midi music comes from the game

Are you using a MIDI daughterboard or external module? The SB16's MIDI support is just the MPU401 side that sends the signal to a module which generates the audio.

You'll need to unmute the MIDI daughterboard or Line-In channels if you are using those. By default they are normally muted to removed static. You can do that with Unisound switches to set the volumes any channel on the card.

I assume he meant FM music... Since the pictures didn't have any daughter board attached to the card...

Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-28, 22:04:

I assume he meant FM music... Since the pictures didn't have any daughter board attached to the card...

Or just has a completely misunderstanding of how MIDI works on those cards. On a SB32 or 64, those would play back with just the card.

Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-28, 21:07:

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-28, 17:22:

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-28, 17:10:

ah i see, yes i have installed those drivers in the roders you put, but i will have to see if autoexec is like this. thanks will try it asap

Sorry I Remember that driver installation have me this error before going on and installing anyway see the screen attached

Are you running this in PURE DOS (aka "Restart into MS-DOS mode") or directly within Windows 98?

restart into dos, from the start if the bios actually. and i have this screen (see first screenshot). it complains it's missing mixerset and diganose and effectively inside sb16 there are no such files for some reasons (see screen 2 and 3 for what i have in autoexec). In the folder for installation i found the diagnose file and put it in sb16 and now at boot i don't have that error anymore. anyway seems like it went through with the installation anyway, I mean if i reboot the pc and from dos (I set the windows fileto stop at dos, and go to windows only if i type WIN) the sound and midi seems to be working, except that the volume is very low for some reasons (in windows 98 volume is high as it should be).

Please note that the dos screen with the message in spanish that says "no puede ejeuctar bajo win 95" is false because that screen is the pure DOS right from the bios, nothing from win 95 (? i have 98...) is loaded.

Cannot find though the mixerset file anywhereelse and don't want to do anotner installation from another driver to get it, to avoid other issues. how can i get that?

SScorpio wrote on 2024-12-28, 21:18:

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-26, 15:04:

the unisound instead works, but only for sound, no midi music comes from the game

Are you using a MIDI daughterboard or external module? The SB16's MIDI support is just the MPU401 side that sends the signal to a module which generates the audio.

You'll need to unmute the MIDI daughterboard or Line-In channels if you are using those. By default they are normally muted to removed static. You can do that with Unisound switches to set the volumes any channel on the card.

no nothing external, just sb16

SScorpio wrote on 2024-12-28, 22:29:

Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-28, 22:04:

I assume he meant FM music... Since the pictures didn't have any daughter board attached to the card...

Or just has a completely misunderstanding of how MIDI works on those cards. On a SB32 or 64, those would play back with just the card.

I have an understanding on how it works, thanks.

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-29, 10:36:

restart into dos, from the start if the bios actually. and i have this screen (see first screenshot). it complains it's missing […]
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Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-28, 21:07:

Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-28, 17:22:

Sorry I Remember that driver installation have me this error before going on and installing anyway see the screen attached

Are you running this in PURE DOS (aka "Restart into MS-DOS mode") or directly within Windows 98?

restart into dos, from the start if the bios actually. and i have this screen (see first screenshot). it complains it's missing mixerset and diganose and effectively inside sb16 there are no such files for some reasons (see screen 2 and 3 for what i have in autoexec). In the folder for installation i found the diagnose file and put it in sb16 and now at boot i don't have that error anymore. anyway seems like it went through with the installation anyway, I mean if i reboot the pc and from dos (I set the windows fileto stop at dos, and go to windows only if i type WIN) the sound and midi seems to be working, except that the volume is very low for some reasons (in windows 98 volume is high as it should be).

Please note that the dos screen with the message in spanish that says "no puede ejeuctar bajo win 95" is false because that screen is the pure DOS right from the bios, nothing from win 95 (? i have 98...) is loaded.

Cannot find though the mixerset file anywhereelse and don't want to do anotner installation from another driver to get it, to avoid other issues. how can i get that?

You’re almost there! Simply download the standard SB16 stuff from here: http://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=6 … menustate=59,52

Unzip into your C:/SB16 folder. No installation process! You “should” done after.

*side note: it appears I made you download a Creative Labs CDROM installation software in my previous posts… I guess it was mislabeled.

Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-29, 13:57:

You’re almost there! Simply download the standard SB16 stuff from here: http://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=6 … menustat […]
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Zaxxon wrote on 2024-12-29, 10:36:

restart into dos, from the start if the bios actually. and i have this screen (see first screenshot). it complains it's missing […]
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Linoleum wrote on 2024-12-28, 21:07:

Are you running this in PURE DOS (aka "Restart into MS-DOS mode") or directly within Windows 98?

restart into dos, from the start if the bios actually. and i have this screen (see first screenshot). it complains it's missing mixerset and diganose and effectively inside sb16 there are no such files for some reasons (see screen 2 and 3 for what i have in autoexec). In the folder for installation i found the diagnose file and put it in sb16 and now at boot i don't have that error anymore. anyway seems like it went through with the installation anyway, I mean if i reboot the pc and from dos (I set the windows fileto stop at dos, and go to windows only if i type WIN) the sound and midi seems to be working, except that the volume is very low for some reasons (in windows 98 volume is high as it should be).

Please note that the dos screen with the message in spanish that says "no puede ejeuctar bajo win 95" is false because that screen is the pure DOS right from the bios, nothing from win 95 (? i have 98...) is loaded.

Cannot find though the mixerset file anywhereelse and don't want to do anotner installation from another driver to get it, to avoid other issues. how can i get that?

You’re almost there! Simply download the standard SB16 stuff from here: http://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=6 … menustate=59,52

Unzip into your C:/SB16 folder. No installation process! You “should” done after.

*side note: it appears I made you download a Creative Labs CDROM installation software in my previous posts… I guess it was mislabeled.

ok perfect thank you very much 😀