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Reply 20 of 21, by Thermalwrong

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xnplater wrote on 2025-09-07, 19:55:
According to the CT65548 manual, this may not be possible. […]
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MAZter wrote on 2025-09-06, 23:39:

Additionally I tested utility with Sager Model 86 (800x600, Chips&Tech 65548) and it does not change anything (VEXP tool not working with this model too). It's probably use complete different registers.

And this resolution really bothers me, but I think it's a feature of the laptop model. I will be glad if you expand compatibility with Chips&Tech 65548.

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According to the CT65548 manual, this may not be possible.

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While vertical compensation uses the same repeat every N-th line algorithm that can be tuned by changing N, the horizontal compensation only mentions doubling for graphics modes. For text modes it does mention expanding 8 pixels to 9 or 10, but it is not stated if this applies to graphics modes as well.

We could definitely give it a try, but I suspect that both horizontal and vertical compensation are already being used here to maximum effect. What can be done is to reduce the vertical stretching to keep the 4:3 aspect ratio, but that would also make a blank border on top and bottom, basically a 640x400 picture centered within 800x600 😒

That matches what I've found, even C&T's own tools can't do horizontal stretch of 320*200 with 800*600 panels beyond doubling to 640 pixels wide: Re: The quest for the perfect retro laptop: a saga
I spent a while poking around registers with a more basic utility but couldn't get it to do anything other than double with the 65548 chipset. Shame too, quite a few of my laptops have that chip.

I'll have to give your tool a go with my Compaq Armada 1598DT, which has a C&T 68554 graphics chip and a 1024*768 LCD panel. Scaling is already implemented pretty well on it though so it might not make much difference. Is the 68554 register compable with the 6555x chips?

Reply 21 of 21, by xnplater

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Thermalwrong wrote on 2025-09-08, 00:49:
That matches what I've found, even C&T's own tools can't do horizontal stretch of 320*200 with 800*600 panels beyond doubling to […]
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xnplater wrote on 2025-09-07, 19:55:
According to the CT65548 manual, this may not be possible. […]
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MAZter wrote on 2025-09-06, 23:39:

Additionally I tested utility with Sager Model 86 (800x600, Chips&Tech 65548) and it does not change anything (VEXP tool not working with this model too). It's probably use complete different registers.

And this resolution really bothers me, but I think it's a feature of the laptop model. I will be glad if you expand compatibility with Chips&Tech 65548.

The attachment 2025-09-06 19.35.07.jpg is no longer available

According to the CT65548 manual, this may not be possible.

The attachment 2025-09-07 21_40_23-65548.pdf (SECURED) - Adobe Acrobat Pro DC (32-bit).png is no longer available

While vertical compensation uses the same repeat every N-th line algorithm that can be tuned by changing N, the horizontal compensation only mentions doubling for graphics modes. For text modes it does mention expanding 8 pixels to 9 or 10, but it is not stated if this applies to graphics modes as well.

We could definitely give it a try, but I suspect that both horizontal and vertical compensation are already being used here to maximum effect. What can be done is to reduce the vertical stretching to keep the 4:3 aspect ratio, but that would also make a blank border on top and bottom, basically a 640x400 picture centered within 800x600 😒

That matches what I've found, even C&T's own tools can't do horizontal stretch of 320*200 with 800*600 panels beyond doubling to 640 pixels wide: Re: The quest for the perfect retro laptop: a saga
I spent a while poking around registers with a more basic utility but couldn't get it to do anything other than double with the 65548 chipset. Shame too, quite a few of my laptops have that chip.

I'll have to give your tool a go with my Compaq Armada 1598DT, which has a C&T 68554 graphics chip and a 1024*768 LCD panel. Scaling is already implemented pretty well on it though so it might not make much difference. Is the 68554 register compable with the 6555x chips?

Hi, thanks for chiming in and confirming your observation for 65548.

The utility should work as is on the 68554. The C&T 68554 manual section regarding vertical and horizontal compensation is practically identical.