douglar wrote on 2026-01-16, 19:51:

I tool the heat sink off my Apple Radeon 9600xt and it had an R360 chip-- https://theretroweb.com/chips/4165 […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-01-12, 19:35:

I have one of these Apple 109-a58503-20 cards and I just pulled the heatsink off to see what it says. It says 9600 Pro on the die. Also, I used digital calipers and measured the die at ~8.86x8.86mm with is roughly the same as the 76mm^2 reported for the RV350 ... for what that's worth.

I tool the heat sink off my Apple Radeon 9600xt and it had an R360 chip-- https://theretroweb.com/chips/4165

Looking at your chip-- The part number ends with an "11F" instead of a "13F". That suggests to me that you might have the 110nm die shrink R351, not the 130nm R360. But I also see chips that end 12f and 11fl, so I don't really know.

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The number refers to the revision, not directly to the process. The Radeon 9800 databook gives some insight here:

gonzo wrote on 2026-01-15, 09:23:

Sphere478 wrote on 2026-01-15, 06:03:

Not sure, but maybe one or both of these. tyan s1564 or epox mvp4 when I get around to it. […]
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Not sure, but maybe one or both of these.
tyan s1564 or epox mvp4 when I get around to it.

The mvp4 is a pci only and can do a high FSB

The tyan will be 66mhz fsb only.

MVP4 socket 7 aiming for the stars!

My favorite is the ASUS P55T2P4 in the latest Version of it. This is for me the absolutely best No-AGP-board with socket 7 in AT-format. It has undocumented options for a Vcore down to 2,0 V; a FSB of 83 MHz can be adjusted (undocumented, = 500 MHz K6-III+ for example); it works with ALL socket-7-CPUs; it can handle K6-2+/III+ and HDDs up to 120 GB with the latest Patch-BIOS from 2002; and it is rock stable in performance. Using a second TAG-RAM, it can adopt at least 256 MB (4x 64 MB) EDO-RAM (maybe even 512 MB, but I am not sure, as I do not have such RAM-modules).

On the other hand, VIA-chipset-boards (having MVP-chipset) are known for a poor RAM-performance compared to Intel-chipsets, so they are not appropriate for best scoring (even they are stable in performance, too).

Mvp4 😀 not mvp3 😀