I'm not happy either. But, but... "the invisible hand of the market regulates the prices" 😁 Ok, enough stupid jokes, but this is what we have and we're not the ones, who can change it.

Actually, when someone accepts, that there is no justice in life (except in some stupid fairy tales, movies and theater productions), his life becomes a little calmer.

aVd wrote on 2026-05-18, 14:49:

I'm not happy either. But, but... "the invisible hand of the market regulates the prices" 😁 Ok, enough stupid jokes, but this is what we have and we're not the ones, who can change it.

Actually, when someone accepts, that there is no justice in life (except in some stupid fairy tales, movies and theater productions), his life becomes a little calmer.

This may be a controversial viewpoint, but I don't think the market value of vintage items increasing with time\demand has anything to do with justice at all.

Suddenly desiring some random object 30 years after it was last sold and not being able to purchase it as easily\cheaply as someone who got it 15 years ago or even last year is... not an injustice. It is just poor timing, being late, etc. Someone may very well have feelings of regret for getting rid of things years ago or for not starting to collect them earlier, but one's own personal feelings and regrets do not change the "rightness" of what someone else already did.

It would be like being angry at someone who invested early in a company that is worth lots of money now and expects to get the current value of their shares. Or getting mad at someone who put time into doing one thing while you (speaking generally) spent time doing something else. I sometimes think about stuff I passed up that was obviously worth getting at the time and I just decided against it, and it is now worth 5-10x more. It doesn't mean that whoever got it and might try to sell it now for its current value is a criminal.

There is a word for wanting what others have and getting angry about the fact that they have it and you can't take it from them on your terms, but none of us like to think about the fact that we have those feelings sometimes.

Just my opinion, but a good way to deal with this is to either make a conscious decision to expend the time, energy, resources required to do\get something without complaining or stressing out about it, or fight the FOMO and be content with what you have or can get. There are so many things to enjoy in life. You don't have to pick the things that make you upset because someone else got to them first or knows how to do so. It is unhealthy mentally and physically.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-05-18, 16:00:

aVd wrote on 2026-05-18, 14:49:

I'm not happy either. But, but... "the invisible hand of the market regulates the prices" 😁 Ok, enough stupid jokes, but this is what we have and we're not the ones, who can change it.

Actually, when someone accepts, that there is no justice in life (except in some stupid fairy tales, movies and theater productions), his life becomes a little calmer.

This may be a controversial viewpoint, but I don't think the market value of vintage items increasing with time\demand has anything to do with justice at all.

That's not the point of this thread though, it's about "people immediately buying up any hardware listing then flipping for exorbitant prices". People who made a proper job wandering all places with ads and grabbing everything just to resell. And while "the best system" allows it, "the best constitution" allows me to hate them :)

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-05-18, 16:00:

This may be a controversial viewpoint, but I don't think the market value of vintage items increasing with time\demand has anything to do with justice at all.

If there is no injustice, then why someone would complain? Also I don't mind this particular case, when someone grabs something valuable just to sell it later for a doubled price. And yes, life's not fair regardless of what you, I or others think.

People famously never complain about anything that isn't a true injustice.

Shitty sellers endure because of shitty buyers. Take a tip from Mr Paul Anka: just don't look, just don't look!

konc wrote on 2026-05-18, 16:31:

That's not the point of this thread though, it's about "people immediately buying up any hardware listing then flipping for exorbitant prices". People who made a proper job wandering all places with ads and grabbing everything just to resell. And while "the best system" allows it, "the best constitution" allows me to hate them :)

Right, that's what the title of the thread says but it's common for everyone who buys and resells hardware to get lumped into the same pile in discussions like this. If someone turns buying and selling non-essential trinkets like old PC parts into a "proper job" as you put it and puts in the time and effort to do it and make it profitable, people who do not do so have zero entitlement to whatever those things are. If someone has no entitlement to something, then being upset about someone else having it or profiting from it is the definition of envy and is not a healthy thing.

Is it wrong if sellers are dishonest when they sell scrap-finds as "working system pulls" or tested-not-working items as "untested"? Of course.

Is it a bit lame when sellers who have no knowledge of the stuff just list every random PCB they find for $479.83 as a "collectors item" with a completely false AI generated description and jack prices up as soon as anyone looks at it? Of course.

Is it annoying when sellers are irresponsible, have poor communication or a bad attitude when trying to talk to them or resolve problems? Absolutely.

And, like you said, you are totally free to hate whoever you want. I just think the world has enough hate and outrage in it already without people letting "old, barely useful (possibly broken) circuit board envy" influence their emotions. I only said what I said in reply to the general practice of buying and selling things being called an "injustice".

aVd wrote on 2026-05-18, 16:57:

If there is no injustice, then why someone would complain? Also I don't mind this particular case, when someone grabs something valuable just to sell it later for a doubled price. And yes, life's not fair regardless of what you, I or others think.

People complain for all sorts of reasons, many of which are incompatible so they can not all be issues of "justice", though I guess it depends on what an individual uses to define justice. These days the definition seems to be quite loose, and often influenced by how many (bot or human made) posts\videos are made about the subject on the internet, or how upset we're told to be about something.

And, it sounds like you and I agree that people need to just deal with things like this and not take everything personally. That said, justice and fairness have a similar connotation in this context, and I don't think that this is necessarily always an issue of fairness either.

I'm not going to get into it any further though as this is becoming very subjective and I know that we all are in different situations, especially when we're talking about different countries or continents.

I just wanted to put my perspective out there, and I apologize if my wording came across as confrontational or judgemental. It wasn't my intent. 🙂