cyclone3d wrote:

Yeah.. The Creative autoupdate I am pretty sure no longer works. It was really janky even when it was working.

creative auto update still works in xp and vista and 7

i manage to install the drivers (wdm drivers only) from disc from the driver folder in the audio folder, finding a way to install the rest because there is an error

Ah, ok. I stopped using it at some point because it would always try to re-install the same exact stuff that was already installed.

In any case there really isn't a use for it anymore as no newer stuff is going to be released for the old cards.

having no luck with the rest of software on vista so far

Even with the Vista CD? Is it just saying it can't find the card or what?

Edit: What is the part number on that card?

I'm seeing some say SB0460 and another SB0466 (mistype)?

cyclone3d wrote:

Even with the Vista CD? Is it just saying it can't find the card or what?

Edit: What is the part number on that card?

I'm seeing some say SB0460 and another SB0466 (mistype)?

i will look when i get home and post on here after work

The main setup doesnt detect the card but if go drivers folder in the audio folder and install from there, its sees the card and installs the wdm drivers and i get sound, just cant install the "bloatware" along with drivers but creative media source installs from main setup program along with creative autoupdate

the model number for my sound card is SB0460

Ok.. so it was Creative doing their normal... use the same model number for different cards thing. Either the firmware is different or the firmware detects the slight differences in configuration and changes the ID that the setup program detects.

Pretty sure this is the same as your card - Fatyal1ty FPS SB0460

And the XtremeMusic SB0460

The only differences I see are that the Fatal1ty FPS has the LED block and there is no jumper on the EXT header.

What happens if you unhook the front panel and install the jumper where it is on the XtremeMusic card? Does setup see it then?

I really should just install the Fatal1ty card I have in a test setup but since you already have one installed... and I don't have the front panel.

I have an idea. It may be because of the Product Identification Module that is included with the Vista CD and the newer XP CD.

See if this one marked for Windows 7 will install in Vista. This was supposed to fix detection issues with Windows 7.. but maybe it will work in Vista as well.
https://support.creative.com/downloads/search … e&showdetais=1#

If not, go ahead and try to install the one included on the XP CD in Vista.
It is in this folder on the CD:
CTShared\LaunchEx\PIDInst\

Not sure if the Vista CD will try to install the newer version or not when you run the setup from the Vista CD.
You may try copying the whole CD to a folder and then replace that whole folder with the one from the XP CD.

If neither of those work.. I'll see if I can hack together the XP and Vista one to make a Vista one that will detect the Fatal1ty FPS.

cyclone3d wrote:

Ok.. so it was Creative doing their normal... use the same model number for different cards thing. Either the firmware is differ […]
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Ok.. so it was Creative doing their normal... use the same model number for different cards thing. Either the firmware is different or the firmware detects the slight differences in configuration and changes the ID that the setup program detects.

Pretty sure this is the same as your card - Fatyal1ty FPS SB0460

Fatal1ty FPS SB0460.jpg

And the XtremeMusic SB0460

XtremeMusic SB0460.jpg

The only differences I see are that the Fatal1ty FPS has the LED block and there is no jumper on the EXT header.

What happens if you unhook the front panel and install the jumper where it is on the XtremeMusic card? Does setup see it then?

I really should just install the Fatal1ty card I have in a test setup but since you already have one installed... and I don't have the front panel.

the top card pictures looks my card as it the "x-ram" thing in the top right and what jumper i dont see it one

Jumper is in the picture of the XtremeMusic. Near the bottom right in the picture.. don't mind the bent posts.

ok i will have a look and sorry for late response as i was on holiday

i had a look and the spot where is the jumper is in second picture is all use by the ribbon cable for i/o 5.25 bay box