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Reply 2300 of 2309, by Falcosoft

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Roland User wrote on Yesterday, 21:20:

Good , I understand you , but it would be comfortable if in FSMP I can do revoice use select patch from ins file , I mean what double click to patch and show list all patches as when we click in FSMP program + MSB + LSB and next step select patch and modify MIDI file )

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Also you should realize that Bank Select MSB, Bank Select LSB and Program Change messages are 3 different messages that can be placed totally different places, what's more even on different tracks.
A sequencer like Cakewalk can mimic as if they were only one message but in reality they are not. Most likely Cakewalk inserts 3 messages when you select a patch but I'm not sure what it does when e.g. other bank select messages for the same channel exist on other tracks. Scanning the whole file and removing all other related messages?
FSMP's low level editor/debugger does not want to be smarter than you so they show the messages separately (the exact way they can be found in the Midi file) and lets you modify the messages at the byte level.

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I have tested Cakewalk Sonar 8 Producer Edition and even it can only modify patches reliably that it created previously. When bank select messages for the same channel exist on other tracks Cakewalk simply ignores them. This way If the messages occur on later tracks with the same or bigger tick/position value then the patch modification fails since the messages with bigger tick/position values overwrite the modified ones.
So this 'abstraction' is much more problematic than you or Cakewalk think 😀

Last edited by Falcosoft on 2025-08-12, 22:00. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 2301 of 2309, by Roland User

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Yes , but available such files Re: Falcosoft Soundfont Midi Player + Munt VSTi + BassMidi VSTi when absent sysex messages and I can not add messages in FSMP editor such as patch select , MSB / LSB select , of course I understand what this your right add this options or no ) and I think what you changed not add this functional ) , well, that was a wish

Reply 2302 of 2309, by Falcosoft

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Roland User wrote on Yesterday, 21:57:

Yes , but available such files Re: Falcosoft Soundfont Midi Player + Munt VSTi + BassMidi VSTi when absent sysex messages and I can not add messages in FSMP editor such as patch select , MSB / LSB select , of course I understand what this your right add this options or no ) and I think what you changed not add this functional ) , well, that was a wish

Once more:
Why do you say you cannot add patch select (i.e. program change) and bank MSB/LSB messages when in reality you can if you want? (The 'insert' button on the interface is exactly for this task).

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Reply 2303 of 2309, by Roland User

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But how ? I not find here this do in FSMP , if this available , please , show where and as this do ?

Reply 2304 of 2309, by Falcosoft

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Roland User wrote on Yesterday, 22:06:

But how ? I not find here this do in FSMP , if this available , please , show where and as this do ?

Insert button?

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Reply 2305 of 2309, by Roland User

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And where ? I click all what only can click in FSMP , but not understand what add need messages )

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Roland User wrote on Yesterday, 22:13:

And where ? I click all what only can click in FSMP , but not understand what add need messages )

Really?
There are 4 input fields above the Change/Insert/Delete buttons. You can set the Midi Channel, Midi Event , Midi Data Byte 1, Midi Data Byte 2 values there.
E.g. to insert a program change message to channel 1 set the channel field to 1 , set the Midi event value to 192 and set the Midi data byte1 value to the desired program number. (Hint: you can learn what Midi messasges corrspond to what event numbers by clicking on existing messages).

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Reply 2307 of 2309, by Roland User

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Thank you , but this can be simplified , I offer do if right click mouse on insert , you can do show list , all possible messages ) also as you do in WinMM MultiPort VSTi for remove synth , only this for select inserting message )

Reply 2308 of 2309, by Falcosoft

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Roland User wrote on Yesterday, 22:29:

Thank you , but this can be simplified , I offer do if right click mouse on insert , you can do show list , all possible messages ) also as you do in WinMM MultiPort VSTi for remove synth , only this for select inserting message )

I offer that you should learn the Midi protocol instead 😀
But yes, a selection menu can be added.

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Reply 2309 of 2309, by Roland User

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Falcosoft wrote on Yesterday, 22:32:

I offer that you should learn the Midi protocol instead 😀

What for ? Here we about not understand each other ) I say about what offer do so
you can seen what if I press save in graphic editor , I see list save as , save as copy , export , copy to clipboard , and also can make your button insert ) , and if user click right mouse button and see what we can insert )
but good , if this nobody not need , so can as is ) maybe I have a rare one offer

Falcosoft wrote on Yesterday, 22:32:

But yes, a selection menu can be added.

Good , maybe this will add in next version ) , thank you )