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Reply 360 of 366, by Trashbytes

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rmay635703 wrote on Yesterday, 17:01:
Agreed and it’s worth noting how we got here, lots of countries made very poor decisions in the past, and have played a role in […]
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Hoping wrote on Yesterday, 16:52:

This might not be the right section of the forum. But I suppose there’s only very strict moderation here when it comes to discussing illegal topics. I’d like to think that Vogons is free and apolitical. Anyone can talk about whatever they like; whether they get a reply or not, there’s a section for that. If the topic has come up, it’s because more than one person links what’s happening and being done in a certain country to the current global unrest. In other words, what a certain psychopath does affects the world of computing. For example, the way he attacked Anthropic and how OpenAI caved in. The problem with RAM prices – many of us say it’s down to LLMs.
So, yes, it does affect computers.

Agreed and it’s worth noting how we got here, lots of countries made very poor decisions in the past, and have played a role in moving the bar so extremely low as to allow for the problems affecting us all.

The bright shiny object is just the tip of the iceberg and hides the real source of issues today.

If and when we crawl out there will probably be decades of work to fix what’s broken.

And that includes helium, the situation with that and things as dumb as copper are FAR worse than most folks understand.

Not worried about Helium, its bromine that's the killer most of the worlds supply for electronics comes from Israel, there are other sources but none are of the required purity or quantity for chip fabbing..

And with Israel currently tied up in a war the supply of Bromine is not great, worse than Helium currently.

Reply 361 of 366, by Trashbytes

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swaaye wrote on Yesterday, 18:13:

It will be interesting to see how the value of RTX 5xxx holds considering DLSS 5 and the neural texture compression being hyped. Both seem likely to need a new architecture to perform.

Nvidia is pushing to have the next gen of GPUs be nothing but AI and neural cores .. zero raster or RT cores, all rendering will be done via the AI with it emulating raster as required.

100% AI hallucination rendering, why bother with real frames when you can have 100% fake ones.

Reply 362 of 366, by tomcattech

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Trashbytes wrote on Yesterday, 22:02:

100% AI hallucination rendering, why bother with real frames when you can have 100% fake ones.

ughhh, wonderful <sarc>

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I either fix it or break it permanently... there is no try.

Reply 363 of 366, by wierd_w

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Well.. On the more entertaining side of things.... I found an old piece of junk that might be fun to turn into a DOS + NT4 machine in a recent "returned to me" delivery.
Also found some suitable ram for it in the basement at work, that nobody there will ever miss. (It being DDR2 and all. 4gb of it.)

Emachines E1300G. 1.6ghz AM2 Athlon, with nvidia GeForce 6150SE IGP. (which happens to have NT4 drivers in the 77.72 NT4 Geforce pack.)

I might try that out, and see if that hot garbage GPU's OpenGL ICD is up to running Wine's DX libs on NT4. From inital investigations, it's OGL 2.0 ICD, which is "barely enough", so might be fun to try to ham-fist having DX7,8,9 provided by Wine DLLs on actual hardware.

Be a nice break from seeing the prices of DDR4 and DDR5 memory approaching that of a single family home.

Reply 364 of 366, by rmay635703

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Trashbytes wrote on Yesterday, 21:59:
rmay635703 wrote on Yesterday, 17:01:
Agreed and it’s worth noting how we got here, lots of countries made very poor decisions in the past, and have played a role in […]
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Hoping wrote on Yesterday, 16:52:

This might not be the right section of the forum. But I suppose there’s only very strict moderation here when it comes to discussing illegal topics. I’d like to think that Vogons is free and apolitical. Anyone can talk about whatever they like; whether they get a reply or not, there’s a section for that. If the topic has come up, it’s because more than one person links what’s happening and being done in a certain country to the current global unrest. In other words, what a certain psychopath does affects the world of computing. For example, the way he attacked Anthropic and how OpenAI caved in. The problem with RAM prices – many of us say it’s down to LLMs.
So, yes, it does affect computers.

Agreed and it’s worth noting how we got here, lots of countries made very poor decisions in the past, and have played a role in moving the bar so extremely low as to allow for the problems affecting us all.

The bright shiny object is just the tip of the iceberg and hides the real source of issues today.

If and when we crawl out there will probably be decades of work to fix what’s broken.

And that includes helium, the situation with that and things as dumb as copper are FAR worse than most folks understand.

And with Israel currently tied up in a war the supply of Bromine is not great, worse than Helium currently.

It’s been a revolving door of shortages of various raw materials for a while.

My concern is less the specific item but the fact we have been hours from the military production act locking down due to dumb shortages.

If that happens on anything things are going to get a lot worse.

They are already hinting there won’t be enough fertilizer supply to fullfill “paid for” supplies in various regions.

Famine hitting randomly changes the math.

Reply 365 of 366, by Trashbytes

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rmay635703 wrote on Yesterday, 22:33:
It’s been a revolving door of shortages of various raw materials for a while. […]
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Trashbytes wrote on Yesterday, 21:59:
rmay635703 wrote on Yesterday, 17:01:
Agreed and it’s worth noting how we got here, lots of countries made very poor decisions in the past, and have played a role in […]
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Agreed and it’s worth noting how we got here, lots of countries made very poor decisions in the past, and have played a role in moving the bar so extremely low as to allow for the problems affecting us all.

The bright shiny object is just the tip of the iceberg and hides the real source of issues today.

If and when we crawl out there will probably be decades of work to fix what’s broken.

And that includes helium, the situation with that and things as dumb as copper are FAR worse than most folks understand.

And with Israel currently tied up in a war the supply of Bromine is not great, worse than Helium currently.

It’s been a revolving door of shortages of various raw materials for a while.

My concern is less the specific item but the fact we have been hours from the military production act locking down due to dumb shortages.

If that happens on anything things are going to get a lot worse.

They are already hinting there won’t be enough fertilizer supply to fullfill “paid for” supplies in various regions.

Famine hitting randomly changes the math.

When you look back at all teh billionaires building underground bunkers and island fortresses you gotta wonder just who is pulling the strings here to get these wars going. They obviously have a plan and I don't think us plebs are part of it, the mega rich have for a long time wanted to get rid of the middle class.

Reply 366 of 366, by rmay635703

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Trashbytes wrote on Yesterday, 22:37:
rmay635703 wrote on Yesterday, 22:33:
It’s been a revolving door of shortages of various raw materials for a while. […]
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Trashbytes wrote on Yesterday, 21:59:

And with Israel currently tied up in a war the supply of Bromine is not great, worse than Helium currently.

It’s been a revolving door of shortages of various raw materials for a while.

My concern is less the specific item but the fact we have been hours from the military production act locking down due to dumb shortages.

If that happens on anything things are going to get a lot worse.

They are already hinting there won’t be enough fertilizer supply to fullfill “paid for” supplies in various regions.

Famine hitting randomly changes the math.

When you look back at all teh billionaires building underground bunkers and island fortresses you gotta wonder just who is pulling the strings here to get these wars going. They obviously have a plan and I don't think us plebs are part of it, the mega rich have for a long time wanted to get rid of the middle class.

Many of the folks who think they are the “in crowd” are going to get completely wiped out.

Most going along with this building bunkers are going to loose the most.

Lots of naivety to the max going around