Thanks for pointing that out. I will look into it once I find some time!

Beluga wrote on 2020-06-13, 18:45:

red-ray wrote on 2020-06-13, 08:24:

For having some stuff to play around with: Luckily Tenox uploaded his collection to archive.org here: https://archive.org/download/ntrisc/powerpc/

Sorry to necro this thread, but by any chance do you still have this compilation? It seems to have been taken down for some reason.

DarthRevanG4 wrote on 2025-05-13, 00:20:

I second this request. We have a big wave of new PowerPC Windows NT users now that it boots natively on most PowerPC Macs, all N […]
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Beluga wrote on 2020-06-13, 18:45:

red-ray wrote on 2020-06-13, 08:24:

For having some stuff to play around with: Luckily Tenox uploaded his collection to archive.org here: https://archive.org/download/ntrisc/powerpc/

Sorry to necro this thread, but by any chance do you still have this compilation? It seems to have been taken down for some reason.

I second this request. We have a big wave of new PowerPC Windows NT users now that it boots natively on most PowerPC Macs, all Nintendo GameCubes, Wiis (Wii Mini requires little hardmod) and Wii Us.

We are searching for as much native PPC apps as possible, mainly for NT 4.0 SP2, but also NT 3.51 SP5 (or, really, anything between 3.5 and 4.0 SP2).

We are trying to avoid x86 apps (both 16-bit and, via either wx86 or Motorola SoftWindows, 32-bit), but anything that works at all in this environment is genuinely welcome.

Those /download/ntrisc/* URLs do seem to be dead, but I was able to locate Visual C++ for RISC: https://archive.org/details/VisualCRISC4.0RISC/

Not much but it's a start!

Jubadub wrote on 2025-05-14, 14:50:

We have a big wave of new PowerPC Windows NT users now that it boots natively on most PowerPC Macs

Maybe I should try and building SIV native SIV32P.exe + SIVP32.sys images for Windows NT PowerPC, I have all the CDs and would just need a host system, what would you guys recommend that's reasonably fast, at least double the speed of my Digital PWS 600a Alpha, preferably more, I guess 2GB of memory and a reasonable price.

I don't wish to use an emulator as I need real hardware for SIV to report. Given it's NT V4.00 SP2 I guess there is a pretty small disk size limit, 7.8GB I think.

VC++ 4.0 is great, but there's also the PPC native VC++ 4.1 (also known as "4.0a"): https://winworldpc.com/download/66c29de2-809c … 80-93c39611c3a6

red-ray wrote on 2025-05-14, 22:13:

Jubadub wrote on 2025-05-14, 14:50:

We have a big wave of new PowerPC Windows NT users now that it boots natively on most PowerPC Macs

Maybe I should try and building SIV native SIV32P.exe + SIVP32.sys images for Windows NT PowerPC, I have all the CDs and would just need a host system, what would you guys recommend that's reasonably fast, at least double the speed of my Digital PWS 600a Alpha, preferably more, I guess 2GB of memory and a reasonable price.

I don't wish to use an emulator as I need real hardware for SIV to report. Given it's NT V4.00 SP2 I guess there is a pretty small disk size limit, 7.8GB I think.

Without native NT PPC USB drivers being available yet, the best is probably going to be a 2004 Apple laptop, or earlier. The ones from 2005 are to be avoided, because they use USB internally, which won't work. Earlier ones use ADB for mouse and keyboard, and are good candidates, some of whom should be more than twice as fast as your 600 MHz DEC Alpha workstation for single processor single core tasks.

If USB support was available, then the Mac mini G4, MDD and 2005 laptops would instantly come to mind, but unless someone steps in to create USB PPC NT drivers, that won't be possible. Here's the official development page for the PowerMacs: https://github.com/Wack0/maciNTosh (and here's the one for Nintendo's PPC hardware: https://github.com/Wack0/entii-for-workcubes )

Alternatively, the Wii U is another pretty good bet: 1.24 GHz, with 3 cores, all of which are being made usable in NT PPC by the author in recent days (update not yet released), and the machine itself offers 2GB of DDR3 RAM. However, the Wii U version works in what is called "vWii" mode for now, in which a Wii is virtualized, which I think imposes perhaps restrictions (e.g. 1.3GB RAM? Not sure).

Jubadub wrote on 2025-05-15, 16:38:

Without native NT PPC USB drivers being available yet

Thank you for all the pointers, I will have a look over the next few days, but I don't see why I need USB, NT4 does not have USB native support and on my Alpha I rarely is ever use it (it's running W2K RC1/2).

I assume I will be able to connect via Ethernet to transfer all the files. More of a concern is will Windows 10/11 be able to talk to it, it's fine with NT4 SP6a, but I have no idea about SP2, I find NT 3.51 is temperamental.

red-ray wrote on 2025-05-15, 17:17:

Jubadub wrote on 2025-05-15, 16:38:

Without native NT PPC USB drivers being available yet

Thank you for all the pointers, I will have a look over the next few days, but I don't see why I need USB, NT4 does not have USB native support and on my Alpha I rarely is ever use it (it's running W2K RC1/2).

I assume I will be able to connect via Ethernet to transfer all the files. More of a concern is will Windows 10/11 be able to talk to it, it's fine with NT4 SP6a, but I have no idea about SP2, I find NT 3.51 is temperamental.

Native USB drivers for NT 4.0 do exist, but are all x86 AFAIK, and are offered from 3rd parties. I don't know about your USB needs, but it would enable far more devices to use NT PPC, and devices that currently work would be able to use more peripherals, and things like external USB storage.

For this project, 3 things don't seem to work: audio, graphics acceleration and networking. They are being worked on, though.

Jubadub wrote on 2025-05-16, 06:32:

For this project, 3 things don't seem to work: audio, graphics acceleration and networking.

Oh, if networking doesn't work then it's a show stopper for me so I will wait 'till it is. It rather surprised me as I used a Powerstack in the 1990s and networking did work.

I guess I can start adding some code, please may I have a registry export of HKLM\Hardware\Description\System?