AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:40:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:24:

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-16, 16:08:

Maybe.

hmm HD2900 XT ?

Its a rather rare card .. not exactly a great card but cetainly rare enough and its got that uhhh racing red shroud and would fit with the replaced soon after relase . .since the 3000 series came out super fast not long after the 2900Xt was released.

I didn't realize the 2900XT was considered a rare card, but it falls outside my view being that its PCI-E.

It is but only sue to the simple fact that not many even bought that series of cards and the 2900XT was the Halo model and so not many were made or sold. It was released in May 2007 and the HD3000 cards hit November 2007 and were cheaper and ran a bit cooler so many just bought them instead.

Honestly the HD2000 cards were plagued by delays and problems so its not surprising many tend to ignore they exist, I owned two of them back int he day the second being a RMA for the first ...they were not reliable silicon either.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:44:

It can't possibly be louder than the x1800/x1900... or is it? But anyway, I don't really use any of my GPUs except the mid range low value ones. Right now I am playing Vice City on a Radeon 9600 Pro and that's plenty!

Ahhh it has a bigger blower that does run at higher RPMs due to the 2900XT being a furnace of a GPU so yeah its a loud card when running full stress, Im sure you could find a 3rd party cooler to fit them which may help, or fiddle with core voltages a bit. I could only see the X1950 XTX beating for noise it due to the shittier blower design they were using that had terrible bearings in the fans but thats a stretch 🤣. (Might be and interesting test actually .. which one makes more decibels)

I think perhaps only the GTX480 could beat the 2900XT for heat generation . .Fermi was a hot GPU too.

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:40:

I didn't realize the 2900XT was considered a rare card, but it falls outside my view being that its PCI-E. Although I confess I have a Fiji Architecture Radeon Pro Duo at home. For some reason iIthought those original HBM Cards were going to make history.

PCIe4Life Soon? Speaking of AGP, there's 3 geforce 3 ti200s right now on ebay. One seems cheap enough. Creative/Msi.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:49:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:40:

I didn't realize the 2900XT was considered a rare card, but it falls outside my view being that its PCI-E. Although I confess I have a Fiji Architecture Radeon Pro Duo at home. For some reason iIthought those original HBM Cards were going to make history.

PCIe4Life Soon? Speaking of AGP, there's 3 geforce 3 ti200s right now on ebay. One seems cheap enough. Creative/Msi.

If they are cheap enough its worth grabbing one, the GF3 is a nice card to have around to throw in systems not worth putting anything better into.

I dont have a 133mhz FSB Dual Pentium 3 XEON board. Well, as soon as it arrives, i wont be able to say that anymore.

I have PLENTY of 100FSB xeon boards. 133's dont come up often.

Sellers image of the Supermicro S2DL3 - you can google it if you want more info, or see the auction on ePay.

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:53:

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:49:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:40:

I didn't realize the 2900XT was considered a rare card, but it falls outside my view being that its PCI-E. Although I confess I have a Fiji Architecture Radeon Pro Duo at home. For some reason iIthought those original HBM Cards were going to make history.

PCIe4Life Soon? Speaking of AGP, there's 3 geforce 3 ti200s right now on ebay. One seems cheap enough. Creative/Msi.

If they are cheap enough its worth grabbing one, the GF3 is a nice card to have around to throw in systems not worth putting anything better into.

I love me a good GF3!, but I'm currently trying to find a Gf3 Ti 200 "128MB" Version for cheap. I already have a 64MB version, that I bought for Christmas in 2001! 😁

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:48:

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:44:

It can't possibly be louder than the x1800/x1900... or is it? But anyway, I don't really use any of my GPUs except the mid range low value ones. Right now I am playing Vice City on a Radeon 9600 Pro and that's plenty!

Ahhh it has a bigger blower that does run at higher RPMs due to the 2900XT being a furnace of a GPU so yeah its a loud card when running full stress, Im sure you could find a 3rd party cooler to fit them which may help, or fiddle with core voltages a bit. I could only see the X1950 XTX beating for noise it due to the shittier blower design they were using that had terrible bearings in the fans but thats a stretch 🤣. (Might be and interesting test actually .. which one makes more decibels)

I think perhaps only the GTX480 could beat the 2900XT for heat generation . .Fermi was a hot GPU too.

Oof. Well, I guess I'll try with some good thermal paste. I have some noctua I bought specifically for hot components. Maybe that'll help. Aftermarket coolers are not my thing. I like to keep the original look of the cards 😁

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-16, 15:32:

BetaC wrote on 2024-09-16, 07:29:

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Love this pic. Would love to do something similar myself one day. What's the names of these CPUs? I only recognize the labeled ones 😁 and the pentium 3s

Going right from the top left, it's an AMD 8086-2 and the 80186 right below that. Next is a PGA 286 and a 287 right below it, a 386 DX-33, a 486 DX-50 and DX2-66, A rebadged rebage DX2-50 (It's a DX2-66 from cyrix that has been relabeled as an IBM chip, and relabeled as 50MHz), an AMD 5x86 133, An original Socket 4 Pentium 60, a Pentium 75 with a gold top, a Pentium Overdrive 83 for 486 systems, a ceramic Pentium MMX 166, an IBM/Cyrix 6x86 133, a 256k Pentium Pro 200, a Cyrix MII-333, an AMD K6-2 350, a P3 500, Server Tualatin 1.2, and the literal worst ever Pentium 4 (1.3GHz).

Below that is a Zilog Z80, A Motorola 68030-16 and 68LC040-33, my B&W G3 tower's original 400MHz PowerPC G3, and an Ultra SPARC IIi that i pulled out of a dead workstation.

Bought a pair of Geforce 256 32MB, finally!
Paid more than what I usually do for retro hardware, but at least it wasn't crazy e-bay prices.

Now I really need a NV1, anyone has where can I get one 😀

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-11, 21:09:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-11, 15:01:

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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-11, 07:57:

Just noticed I've got 5ns memories too, but it's clocked at 182mhz in windows iirc.

Whats the board part number & Bios Rev sticker on the front of the board?

This card is this: 109-70700-20 & 70706. There is multiple revisions of the board and bios.

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Same here. only difference seems to be I have the old style cooler. and I need to check whether I am 200mhz too (but I am fairly certain it's 182mhz)

Was it 183Mhz or 200Mhz ??

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:58:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:53:

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-16, 17:49:

PCIe4Life Soon? Speaking of AGP, there's 3 geforce 3 ti200s right now on ebay. One seems cheap enough. Creative/Msi.

If they are cheap enough its worth grabbing one, the GF3 is a nice card to have around to throw in systems not worth putting anything better into.

I love me a good GF3!, but I'm currently trying to find a Gf3 Ti 200 "128MB" Version for cheap. I already have a 64MB version, that I bought for Christmas in 2001! 😁

128Mb GF3 Ti200 cards are gonna be exceptionally rare, I think Gainward and Aopen made one but I dont remember any Ti500s with 128mb. Ti500s came out rather late in the GF3 life cycle and were crazy expensive, so if you do find one itll be a Rare Unicorn and worth grabbing if its not an eye watering price.

128mb ti200s are pretty rare too, not seen one myself yet.

Pino wrote on 2024-09-16, 20:21:

Bought a pair of Geforce 256 32MB, finally!
Paid more than what I usually do for retro hardware, but at least it wasn't crazy e-bay prices.

Now I really need a NV1, anyone has where can I get one 😀

They come up on Evilbay occasionally usually at high prices, even seen one with all its software and games.

An interesting card but not really that useful outside of seeing its quad rending at work.

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-16, 21:10:

Was it 183Mhz or 200Mhz ??

I need to check, I vacuum-packed it up (lots of humidity in my garage 🙁 ) after cleaning it and stored it, and I don't have easy access to it right now because it's at the bottom of a bunch of other cards. I am fairly certain it was 182/183mhz because I bought this card specifically because it was advertised as a "183mhz" DDR. But that doesn't mean your card was modded, because yours is different. I have the old style cooler which by the looks of it is less efficient than yours. Yours is definitely a late card, maybe from the 7200 line.

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-09-17, 03:11:

128Mb GF3 Ti200 cards are gonna be exceptionally rare, I think Gainward and Aopen made one but I dont remember any Ti500s with 128mb. Ti500s came out rather late in the GF3 life cycle and were crazy expensive, so if you do find one itll be a Rare Unicorn and worth grabbing if its not an eye watering price.

128mb ti200s are pretty rare too, not seen one myself yet.

128 MB Ti200 cards are not rare, I had one back in the day, I bought one in 2001 (IIRC) for 130 euros, back then it was *a lot* of money. Abit Siluro, I was a huge fan of Abit, I already had an Abit motherboard. Turned out later that their videocards were not so great, my Ti200 was a solid card, but nothing special. Later I got the rush to get a DX9 card, so I bought an Abit FX5600DT 256 MB, I knew it's a low-mid end card, but I thought it should be fine... It was a failure, a really bad cooling system, it had Elixir RAM 🙁

Anyway, I have quite a few 128 MB Ti200 in my collection, I think I have more than 64 MB cards. But 128 MB Ti500 - yeah, that's an unicorn, I never seen one, I think they don't exist.

RaverX wrote on 2024-09-17, 06:16:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-09-17, 03:11:

128Mb GF3 Ti200 cards are gonna be exceptionally rare, I think Gainward and Aopen made one but I dont remember any Ti500s with 128mb. Ti500s came out rather late in the GF3 life cycle and were crazy expensive, so if you do find one itll be a Rare Unicorn and worth grabbing if its not an eye watering price.

128mb ti200s are pretty rare too, not seen one myself yet.

128 MB Ti200 cards are not rare, I had one back in the day, I bought one in 2001 (IIRC) for 130 euros, back then it was *a lot* of money. Abit Siluro, I was a huge fan of Abit, I already had an Abit motherboard. Turned out later that their videocards were not so great, my Ti200 was a solid card, but nothing special. Later I got the rush to get a DX9 card, so I bought an Abit FX5600DT 256 MB, I knew it's a low-mid end card, but I thought it should be fine... It was a failure, a really bad cooling system, it had Elixir RAM 🙁

Anyway, I have quite a few 128 MB Ti200 in my collection, I think I have more than 64 MB cards. But 128 MB Ti500 - yeah, that's an unicorn, I never seen one, I think they don't exist.

Rare enough, just because you have many doesn't mean many are actually being sold, perhaps you can help change that. Now if I wanted a 64mb model then I have a lot of options and at that point its better to grab a Ti500.

There are two 128Mb Ti200s up at the moment for ~100 USD each 135 with postage, not a great price but at least they are both tested. (Thats about 120 Euro each incl postage . .which is pretty damn close to the price you paid in 2001 .. so these cards have held their value pretty well)

For reference in my local currency 135 USD is about 200 dollars.

It always depends, on some countries there's an abundance of "something", on other countries the same "something" is very hard to find, and very expensive.

As I said, I remember well that back on the day the 128 MB version was quite common, it sold well, it was only a bit more expensive than the 64 MB version, so it should be easy to find. However, maybe in your country the 64 MB was the most common, and the 128 MB was more expensive, who knows...

RaverX wrote on 2024-09-17, 08:31:

It always depends, on some countries there's an abundance of "something", on other countries the same "something" is very hard to find, and very expensive.

As I said, I remember well that back on the day the 128 MB version was quite common, it sold well, it was only a bit more expensive than the 64 MB version, so it should be easy to find. However, maybe in your country the 64 MB was the most common, and the 128 MB was more expensive, who knows...

I think that may be the case, a lot of the brands that made these 128mb cards seem to be based from Europe and a few from the US, where I live we mostly got the US parts and even then not a huge range of them.

European export stuff is pretty uncommon here even now, I will say I do love seeing the huge range of retro parts coming from the EU now, I have bought a good number of parts from Ukraine, Poland, Germany and Romania I wonder how they have so many retro parts.

My KR7A arrived today from Italy 😀

What are you plans for it ?

Anything fun ?

Slightly undecided yet... half of me wants to go T-Bird + Voodoo 3 3000 with it, the other half wants me to go Palomino 2000+ with Geforce 4 Ti4200.

EDIT: Gonna have to ditch the V3... tried a 2000 AGP and it gets stuck on 25/24 POST codes. The card is functional on other mainboards, so I assume the ABIT simply doesn't like Voodoo cards?