PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-22, 13:22:

Look who showed up from Poland 😀

If you haven't heard me say so before, those go really fast with OPPainter BIOS settings if you can dig them out of the web... or the archive if that's back up.

Looks like maybe main caps have been replaced, but those green ones around the RAM might have to come out.

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-10-22, 15:16:

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G-X wrote on 2024-10-22, 13:38:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-10-21, 19:35:

Picked up a couple of Geforce 256 32MB SDR cards for 37$ Each delivered. Feels like a decent price to me. Will report back later if they actually work on arrival 🤣 😁

Dude leave some for the rest of us .. are you starting a museum or something? :p

Would you like to buy tickets?? 😁

Here is this week's deliveries 🚚 part one!
Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB Crazy Mem Ver. (30$) Listed as untested works great.
Radeon 7200 AIW 32MB ($9) Listed as untested works great.
3DFx Voodoo Banshee GA-630. (Pricey) Worth it! Works great. Fastest production VdB ever made. 110 C-Mhz/130 M-Mhz

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Part two!
Beautiful Albatron Geforce 4 ti 4600 Listed as Used, Very unfortunately has bad Vram and will go back.

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Stay Tuned!

That's a good haul, guess you used your luck up getting a working 9800Pro that the 4600 was bad. Though might be worth fixing it if you can get difference to parts card refunded.

Susanin79 wrote on 2024-10-22, 08:28:

Bought this rare 386 board: Texas Instruments TMB386D33B64, produced in May 1992. Not listed in TRW yet.
Unfortunately battery was leak, now removed by previous owner. This would be a good repair project.

Interesting, weird cache controller. Are you getting a TI CPU for it?

I might be joining you in the fresh meat battery damage repair thing shortly. Two 486SLC boards just landed in Canada and should be with me in a few days.

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-22, 16:29:

PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-22, 13:22:

Look who showed up from Poland 😀

If you haven't heard me say so before, those go really fast with OPPainter BIOS settings if you can dig them out of the web... or the archive if that's back up.

Looks like maybe main caps have been replaced, but those green ones around the RAM might have to come out.

Funny enough, the caps in the VRM are actually original to the board - the joints look factory, no residue around them or anything.

The Teapos will defo' come all out, black or green. I'm planning a polymer recap if I can get hold of 820uF polys, as well as some suitable replacements for the 470s.

Got to check if the archive is back up, then off to diggin' OPPainter's KG7 BIOS settings.

EDIT: Couldn't find the PCPer thread... however I found this:
https://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?p=88918

Apparently they're obtained from both OPPainter and DDTUNG.

BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-22, 16:35:

Interesting, weird cache controller. Are you getting a TI CPU for it?

No, it came with the 40 MHz AMD CPU, but based on marking on the board box it was sold with the 33MHz CPU.

Couple of orders today, but all console related 😁 A new button membrane sheet for my Atari Lyunx II (the existing one was damaged and had some destroyed traces) and a expansion port cover for my Sega Megadrive/Genesis (allegedly may help with inconsistent operation of the 32X expansion without a Sega CD connected) A bit of a point of conjecture, some people reckon the expansion makes it far more consistent in its operation, some people say it does nothing. We'll see (as the 32X is currently not working far more often than it is)

Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine.

Don't quite know if it's going to be that much better than my 1.0/133 Coppermine, but it's always nice to have the top of the line* processor for what you have.

*I know the 1133 exists, but it really doesn't lmao.

BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 00:03:

Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine. […]
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Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine.

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Don't quite know if it's going to be that much better than my 1.0/133 Coppermine, but it's always nice to have the top of the line* processor for what you have.

*I know the 1133 exists, but it really doesn't lmao.

Nice! And I know what you mean about the 1133. Been looking for one for years with no luck. 😅

Shponglefan wrote on 2024-10-23, 00:54:

BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 00:03:

Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine. […]
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Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine.

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Don't quite know if it's going to be that much better than my 1.0/133 Coppermine, but it's always nice to have the top of the line* processor for what you have.

*I know the 1133 exists, but it really doesn't lmao.

Nice! And I know what you mean about the 1133. Been looking for one for years with no luck. 😅

If you ever see one its likely going to require your first born son as payment, then if you ever did get one I doubt itll work properly, there were a few that did but they were pretty damn rare even more so than the broken ones that got recalled.

Still just having one even if it doesn't work right would be cool.

BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 00:03:

Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine. […]
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Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine.

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Don't quite know if it's going to be that much better than my 1.0/133 Coppermine, but it's always nice to have the top of the line* processor for what you have.

*I know the 1133 exists, but it really doesn't lmao.

I bet the 1ghz p3 will smash that celeron in benchmarks.

pete8475 wrote on 2024-10-23, 01:17:

BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 00:03:

Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine. […]
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Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine.

The attachment IMG_4037.jpg is no longer available

Don't quite know if it's going to be that much better than my 1.0/133 Coppermine, but it's always nice to have the top of the line* processor for what you have.

*I know the 1133 exists, but it really doesn't lmao.

I bet the 1ghz p3 will smash that celeron in benchmarks.

It's not a Celeron, though, but a 1.1 P3 100MHz FSB

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:10:

pete8475 wrote on 2024-10-23, 01:17:

BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 00:03:

Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine. […]
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Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine.

The attachment IMG_4037.jpg is no longer available

Don't quite know if it's going to be that much better than my 1.0/133 Coppermine, but it's always nice to have the top of the line* processor for what you have.

*I know the 1133 exists, but it really doesn't lmao.

I bet the 1ghz p3 will smash that celeron in benchmarks.

It's not a Celeron, though, but a 1.1 P3 100MHz FSB

The higher FSB on the 1Ghz should by rights allow it to have an edge over the 100FSB 1.1Ghz CPU. It wont be a huge edge but it'll be noticeable for anything that wants the faster FSB and faster memory bus.

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:10:

It's not a Celeron, though, but a 1.1 P3 100MHz FSB

OMG, I must be half asleep I swear I read Celeron 1.1 not Coppermine 1.1.

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:15:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:10:

pete8475 wrote on 2024-10-23, 01:17:

I bet the 1ghz p3 will smash that celeron in benchmarks.

It's not a Celeron, though, but a 1.1 P3 100MHz FSB

The higher FSB on the 1Ghz should by rights allow it to have an edge over the 100FSB 1.1Ghz CPU. It wont be a huge edge but it'll be noticeable for anything that wants the faster FSB and faster memory bus.

I'm curious to know what of-era software would need the higher FSB. I mean it's already overkill for most 98-2000 games, but it's interesting.

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:15:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:10:

pete8475 wrote on 2024-10-23, 01:17:

I bet the 1ghz p3 will smash that celeron in benchmarks.

It's not a Celeron, though, but a 1.1 P3 100MHz FSB

The higher FSB on the 1Ghz should by rights allow it to have an edge over the 100FSB 1.1Ghz CPU. It wont be a huge edge but it'll be noticeable for anything that wants the faster FSB and faster memory bus.

I tend do agree 😀 and on an i815 motherboard, 133 MHz should be stable as a rock ...

BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:37:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:15:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-10-23, 04:10:

It's not a Celeron, though, but a 1.1 P3 100MHz FSB

The higher FSB on the 1Ghz should by rights allow it to have an edge over the 100FSB 1.1Ghz CPU. It wont be a huge edge but it'll be noticeable for anything that wants the faster FSB and faster memory bus.

I'm curious to know what of-era software would need the higher FSB. I mean it's already overkill for most 98-2000 games, but it's interesting.

Anything that involves Editing like movies and Images, or any program that can saturate the memory bus which at 100/133Mhz isn't terribly hard even for this era of hardware and software.
DDR on P3 also had the same issue in that it still wasn't fast enough or wide enough for some software as it was limited to 266Mhz by the 133 FSB.

Tualatin once you overclock the FSB beyond 150Mhz with a DDR board will happily run circles around Rambus P4 systems which didn't really regain the advantage till 200 FSB and DDR 400 became standard and Rambus got dropped. (The only P3 boards really capable of this overclocking is any that uses the SiS 635T chipset or the few that got the Apollo Pro 266T chipset, the 635T being the fastest avaliable)

Perhaps the 1100 is a better overclocker though? Would love to see some benchmarks.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-10-23, 09:45:

Perhaps the 1100 is a better overclocker though? Would love to see some benchmarks.

P3 CPUs are Multi locked, the 1100 is at 11x and the 1000 is at 7.5x, the lower Multi doesn't help here as any increase over 133 wont be a huge speed bump, the 11x on the 1100 means even a small bump to 110 FSB puts it at 1.2Ghz and 120 is 1.3Ghz.

The question is can the 1100 handle a 200Mhz speed bump and remain stable, might be able to go to 133 FSB with the right motherboard, binned P3 1100 and good cooling.

I think 110 - 115 FSB is more likely before instability begins.

BetaC wrote on 2024-10-23, 00:03:

Finally got my hands on a presumably fine for my CUSL2-C P3 board 1.1GHz Coppermine.
Don't quite know if it's going to be that much better than my 1.0/133 Coppermine, but it's always nice to have the top of the line* processor for what you have.
*I know the 1133 exists, but it really doesn't lmao.

The 1.133/133 versions are Coppermine-T as far as I know - getting one is an illusive hobby. The next best thing is the 850/100 stepping cD0, with CPUID SL4Z2. These run on fsb 133 = 1.133Mhz with stock voltage. See also this great overview: Overclocking Pentium III / Celeron: Coppermine and Tualatin cores - Socket 370

PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-22, 16:57:

Funny enough, the caps in the VRM are actually original to the board - the joints look factory, no residue around them or anythi […]
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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-10-22, 16:29:

PcBytes wrote on 2024-10-22, 13:22:

Look who showed up from Poland 😀

If you haven't heard me say so before, those go really fast with OPPainter BIOS settings if you can dig them out of the web... or the archive if that's back up.

Looks like maybe main caps have been replaced, but those green ones around the RAM might have to come out.

Funny enough, the caps in the VRM are actually original to the board - the joints look factory, no residue around them or anything.

The Teapos will defo' come all out, black or green. I'm planning a polymer recap if I can get hold of 820uF polys, as well as some suitable replacements for the 470s.

Got to check if the archive is back up, then off to diggin' OPPainter's KG7 BIOS settings.

EDIT: Couldn't find the PCPer thread... however I found this:
https://forums.ocworkbench.com/showthread.php?p=88918

Apparently they're obtained from both OPPainter and DDTUNG.

Yup that will do the business. Might be all you need. There was a little bonus information for WPCRedit tweaks originally also. But those really get you flying, make KT266 look lame, go past 266A, embarrass most of the KT333 implementations (there seem to be a lot of sucky ones) and say to nforce, knock knock, I'm in the neighbourhood you win9x incompatible poser.