dexvx wrote:PM-765 (2.1 GHz) at stock will not top due to clock speed deficit compared to FX Claw/Sledgehammer. But if we go for technicals, […]
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Skyscraper wrote:Let's pretend that he made the adapter himself. […]
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vetz wrote:I've been thinking the same thing, but the CT-479 adapter wasnt released until after the cutoff point.
Let's pretend that he made the adapter himself.
A CPU from 2004 (or earlier) running on a motherboard with a chipset from 2004 (or earlier) is enough in my book. 😀
I do not think a stock Pentium M 765 is likely to be able to top the stock settings period correct list anyhow but if it does it would give me a good reason to rebench my Socket 939 systems using Doom 3 v1.0.
PM-765 (2.1 GHz) at stock will not top due to clock speed deficit compared to FX Claw/Sledgehammer. But if we go for technicals, the San Diego/Venice was released mid-2005. Hence I asked specifically for rules. Regardless, I'll be looking for a PM-765 to post results hopefully. Overclocking 400 FSB Dothan is more difficult due to higher multiplier and the fact you need to scour for a C stepping chip.
I have a 915PL, which I think is slower than P4C800/P4P800. But then again, the advantage of the 915PL is that it is PCI-e, so I can use my 6800U/X850XT PE. Finding AGP versions of those are a PITA.
Also the first post wasn't that clear. Timedemo doesn't work on Doom3 demo? So we'd have to buy a hard copy of Doom3 (to back-versioning)... is that correct?
The Doom 3 demo will sadly not run the Timedemo and the new versions sold online are a little bit slower than Doom 3 v1.0 from the orginal disc. If I did not own a Doom 3 disc and could not find one I would buy the Steam version and then acquire the 1.0 version "by other means".
When it comes to San Diego (February 2005) and Venice they are only accepted when they are CPU models* that also exist with Claw/Sledgehammer cores released in 2003 and 2004. The different (1MB) s939 cores performance in Doom 3 are the same (I have tested both FX55 versions using the same system) so it doesn't affect the non overclocked list at all. It seemed practical to not care about core revisions and just focus on CPU models*, sockets* and chipsets*.
The overclocked list does get a bit skewed but the difference in max overclock is only 3-4% comparing a good Clawhammer to a good San Diego. If we start caring about AMD core revisions within the same CPU models it would make sense to also care about Intel steppings as they affect overclocking just as much. As long as we don't use sub zero phase change cooling we will not get better scores than the "Xtremesystems crowd" did back in year 2004 anyhow.
*Simulating a FX55 for the period correct list by running a single Opteron 252 on Socket 940 or an Opteron 152 on Socket 939 would be okey but will be noted as "Opteron 152 (FX55)". Even using a faster single core Socket 939/940 CPU like the FX57 to simulate the FX55 for the stock list would be okey as long as 13x200 MHz is used, the performance will be identical to the real thing.
*No AM2 with nForce4 + Athlon 64 4000+.
*When it comes to chipsets we have not been very strict, nForce4 Pro/32 is okey as the only real benefit over nForce4 is non gimped SLI and SLI is not allowed in the period correct list anyhow. Likewise I think all versions of the Intel 915 chipset should be okey as they are basicly the same when it comes to both performance and overclockability.
Another thing that is allowed is using a Geforce 6800 GT to simulate a Geforce 6800 Ultra or even an "Ultra+" or "Extreme" version as soon as we have a proper score on the list using one of those with known GPU and memory clocks. Nvidia them selves did not talk about an "Ultra Extreme" until early 2005 and they never released an official spec but higher clocked 6800 versions existed 2004 so we will go with whatever someone manages to find.
The rules aren't very strict but things like the Prescott 2M, Socket AM2 and the Dothan with 533 MHz FSB are stretching the period correct definition a bit too far.
Many of these things have been covered before in this thread but I can understand that it's a bit too much to sift through. I will clearify stuff in the first post... later. 😁
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