Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2025-03-15, 08:28:

I made a couple of edits to some of my older (retired) PC build threads today to delete some old images and then got this messag […]
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I made a couple of edits to some of my older (retired) PC build threads today to delete some old images and then got this message:

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1You can only edit a limited number of posts at a time. Try again in 1 day, 22 hours, and 15 minutes.

Why am I not allowed to edit my own posts?

The limit is there to stop people for going haywire on their own posts. We have had multiple occasions where whole threads loose context due to this. Unfortunately it may also trigger on legitimate cases like this.

Ha yeah, I'm reminded of several times I've seen someone ragequit a forum and use a script or something to nuke all their posts. Down the track you find one, probably containing some information you're after, but instead it says "post edited because I'm a big baby."

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-16, 13:59:

GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-01-14, 09:48:

Some time ago i also proposed a feature of "Kudos" or "Appreciation". A positive-only rating system for posts.
For example, i would thank every post in List of Currently Free Games when a game is posted there.

+1 on this, just came to report it myself

Giving people likes on posts has been asked for many, many times and always got shot down. IIRC, the resistance is that many people here actually want to be in a more classic forum environment, and adding likes to posts has the effect of pushing it towards social media and away from being a forum. It also creates a kind of popularity contest atmosphere, regardless of whether or not it's just likes. In that case, you have the inevitable karma farming people and whathaveyou.

I personally don't care all that much, but it would definitely have that effect. Anytime you make a huge change like that in an online community, it's a double-edged sword.

7F20 wrote on 2025-04-04, 15:59:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-16, 13:59:

GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-01-14, 09:48:

Some time ago i also proposed a feature of "Kudos" or "Appreciation". A positive-only rating system for posts.
For example, i would thank every post in List of Currently Free Games when a game is posted there.

+1 on this, just came to report it myself

Giving people likes on posts has been asked for many, many times and always got shot down. IIRC, the resistance is that many people here actually want to be in a more classic forum environment, and adding likes to posts has the effect of pushing it towards social media and away from being a forum. It also creates a kind of popularity contest atmosphere, regardless of whether or not it's just likes. In that case, you have the inevitable karma farming people and whathaveyou.

I personally don't care all that much, but it would definitely have that effect. Anytime you make a huge change like that in an online community, it's a double-edged sword.

I often get replies or messages on a thread but I have nothing to respond, so to not appear as ignorant it could be wise to send a reactionary reply. Maybe a thumbs up would be good, it could also stay visible just for the user receiving it and the person sending the reaction

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-04-04, 16:02:

I often get replies or messages on a thread but I have nothing to respond, so to not appear as ignorant it could be wise to send a reactionary reply. Maybe a thumbs up would be good, it could also stay visible just for the user receiving it and the person sending the reaction

I'm not a mod, so there's no reason to sell it to me, and as I said I don't really care one way or the other.

I'm just telling you why this has been rejected over and over in the past, and why it's not likely to happen now or in the future. Yes, there are benefits, but those benefits have been determined to be outweighed by the negative effects of adding a like button.

Furthermore, if you want to send a reaction, there's nothing stopping you from posting the reaction. That's your choice, no a limitation.

7F20 wrote on 2025-04-04, 15:59:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-16, 13:59:

GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-01-14, 09:48:

Some time ago i also proposed a feature of "Kudos" or "Appreciation". A positive-only rating system for posts.
For example, i would thank every post in List of Currently Free Games when a game is posted there.

+1 on this, just came to report it myself

Giving people likes on posts has been asked for many, many times and always got shot down. IIRC, the resistance is that many people here actually want to be in a more classic forum environment, and adding likes to posts has the effect of pushing it towards social media and away from being a forum. It also creates a kind of popularity contest atmosphere, regardless of whether or not it's just likes. In that case, you have the inevitable karma farming people and whathaveyou.

I personally don't care all that much, but it would definitely have that effect. Anytime you make a huge change like that in an online community, it's a double-edged sword.

I would "like" this post, but I don't have the option to do so. Instead, I will just say that I agree.

🤡

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-04-05, 02:54:

7F20 wrote on 2025-04-04, 15:59:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-16, 13:59:

+1 on this, just came to report it myself

Giving people likes on posts has been asked for many, many times and always got shot down. IIRC, the resistance is that many people here actually want to be in a more classic forum environment, and adding likes to posts has the effect of pushing it towards social media and away from being a forum. It also creates a kind of popularity contest atmosphere, regardless of whether or not it's just likes. In that case, you have the inevitable karma farming people and whathaveyou.

I personally don't care all that much, but it would definitely have that effect. Anytime you make a huge change like that in an online community, it's a double-edged sword.

I would "like" this post, but I don't have the option to do so. Instead, I will just say that I agree.

🤡

And in the list of "New posts" and "Your posts", i saw that this thread has a new post in it. And so i opened this thread up to see, and it just contained an appreciation on another post, no real content.

🤡

(I continue to suggest that this "kudos-system" would be a great addition to this forum)

GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-04-05, 07:29:

And in the list of "New posts" and "Your posts", i saw that this thread has a new post in it. And so i opened this thread up to […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-04-05, 02:54:

7F20 wrote on 2025-04-04, 15:59:

Giving people likes on posts has been asked for many, many times and always got shot down. IIRC, the resistance is that many people here actually want to be in a more classic forum environment, and adding likes to posts has the effect of pushing it towards social media and away from being a forum. It also creates a kind of popularity contest atmosphere, regardless of whether or not it's just likes. In that case, you have the inevitable karma farming people and whathaveyou.

I personally don't care all that much, but it would definitely have that effect. Anytime you make a huge change like that in an online community, it's a double-edged sword.

I would "like" this post, but I don't have the option to do so. Instead, I will just say that I agree.

🤡

And in the list of "New posts" and "Your posts", i saw that this thread has a new post in it. And so i opened this thread up to see, and it just contained an appreciation on another post, no real content.

🤡

(I continue to suggest that this "kudos-system" would be a great addition to this forum)

EDIT: Just to be clear, the tone of this post is lighthearted not angry\argumentative. It is hard to convey that with text. 😅

Your opinion of what is content may be different than mine. Perhaps a one or two others got a chuckle out of my awful attempt at humor. Since there is no kudos\voting system, I will never know if more people liked my post than disliked it. Thankfully, that makes no difference to me. I for one am glad that this particular slice of the internet hasn't yet devolved into a thumb up\down karma farming game driven by mob-mentality like most other sites.

I sometimes visit reddit and a few other forums, and the ones that have "reactions" and "karma" inevitably have this issue of having these totally unnecessary sides\controversies in most discussions as well as incorrect information and misconceptions being "upvoted" to the moon, while at the same time they tend to actually hide posts that get downvoted by the same people that upvoted the others. In an attempt to "sanitize" discussion to maximize the constant dopamine hits of the site's addicts users, they end up with an automated process that massively exaggerates bias and destroys any sense of normal human communication that is left. Five or ten people who feel strongly about something can make it seem like 500 feel the same way, even though no one else even cared enough to type a single word.

This is what the internet is in 2025, and what it was not 20+ years ago.

People 20 years ago thought that the "You'd say that while hiding behind the keyboard, but wouldn't say it to someones face." aspect of the internet was bad enough. They had no idea that some day there would be websites where someone's genuine, honest thoughts or insights could be put out there for the world to see while a thousand people spent 1-2 seconds each determining that said post was worthless\wrong because of the ever growing number of downvotes next to it. It's the equivalent of a mob of hundreds\thousands of completely clueless people screaming obscenities at you\me as they run by your home even though they have no idea who we are and haven't even read what we have to say.

Whew... haven't had a good "I'm old and the world is getting worse." rant in at least a couple days. Thanks for reading. Please don't downvote me to oblivion... oh wait. 😋

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-04-05, 08:03:

EDIT: Just to be clear, the tone of this post is lighthearted not angry\argumentative. It is hard to convey that with text. 😅 […]
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GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-04-05, 07:29:

And in the list of "New posts" and "Your posts", i saw that this thread has a new post in it. And so i opened this thread up to […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-04-05, 02:54:

I would "like" this post, but I don't have the option to do so. Instead, I will just say that I agree.

🤡

And in the list of "New posts" and "Your posts", i saw that this thread has a new post in it. And so i opened this thread up to see, and it just contained an appreciation on another post, no real content.

🤡

(I continue to suggest that this "kudos-system" would be a great addition to this forum)

EDIT: Just to be clear, the tone of this post is lighthearted not angry\argumentative. It is hard to convey that with text. 😅

Your opinion of what is content may be different than mine. Perhaps a one or two others got a chuckle out of my awful attempt at humor. Since there is no kudos\voting system, I will never know if more people liked my post than disliked it. Thankfully, that makes no difference to me. I for one am glad that this particular slice of the internet hasn't yet devolved into a thumb up\down karma farming game driven by mob-mentality like most other sites.

I sometimes visit reddit and a few other forums, and the ones that have "reactions" and "karma" inevitably have this issue of having these totally unnecessary sides\controversies in most discussions as well as incorrect information and misconceptions being "upvoted" to the moon, while at the same time they tend to actually hide posts that get downvoted by the same people that upvoted the others. In an attempt to "sanitize" discussion to maximize the constant dopamine hits of the site's addicts users, they end up with an automated process that massively exaggerates bias and destroys any sense of normal human communication that is left. Five or ten people who feel strongly about something can make it seem like 500 feel the same way, even though no one else even cared enough to type a single word.

This is what the internet is in 2025, and what it was not 20+ years ago.

People 20 years ago thought that the "You'd say that while hiding behind the keyboard, but wouldn't say it to someones face." aspect of the internet was bad enough. They had no idea that some day there would be websites where someone's genuine, honest thoughts or insights could be put out there for the world to see while a thousand people spent 1-2 seconds each determining that said post was worthless\wrong because of the ever growing number of downvotes next to it. It's the equivalent of a mob of hundreds\thousands of completely clueless people screaming obscenities at you\me as they run by your home even though they have no idea who we are and haven't even read what we have to say.

Whew... haven't had a good "I'm old and the world is getting worse." rant in at least a couple days. Thanks for reading. Please don't downvote me to oblivion... oh wait. 😋

Yeah, all is cool. I just wanted to continue the same idea you started - because of no "kudos-system" one must make a post. And that because of no "kudos-system", all other people get notified in a way when someone just shows appreciation. (I expect clicking "thumbs up" on a post using kudos-system not making the thread unread in "your posts" or "new posts" lists)

(Reddit and other such places have up and down votes. It's completely different system compared to what i originally suggested. While at the surface they look similar, a positive-only system behaves completely differently)

GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-04-05, 08:12:

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-04-05, 08:03:

EDIT: Just to be clear, the tone of this post is lighthearted not angry\argumentative. It is hard to convey that with text. 😅 […]
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GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-04-05, 07:29:

And in the list of "New posts" and "Your posts", i saw that this thread has a new post in it. And so i opened this thread up to see, and it just contained an appreciation on another post, no real content.

🤡

(I continue to suggest that this "kudos-system" would be a great addition to this forum)

EDIT: Just to be clear, the tone of this post is lighthearted not angry\argumentative. It is hard to convey that with text. 😅

Your opinion of what is content may be different than mine. Perhaps a one or two others got a chuckle out of my awful attempt at humor. Since there is no kudos\voting system, I will never know if more people liked my post than disliked it. Thankfully, that makes no difference to me. I for one am glad that this particular slice of the internet hasn't yet devolved into a thumb up\down karma farming game driven by mob-mentality like most other sites.

I sometimes visit reddit and a few other forums, and the ones that have "reactions" and "karma" inevitably have this issue of having these totally unnecessary sides\controversies in most discussions as well as incorrect information and misconceptions being "upvoted" to the moon, while at the same time they tend to actually hide posts that get downvoted by the same people that upvoted the others. In an attempt to "sanitize" discussion to maximize the constant dopamine hits of the site's addicts users, they end up with an automated process that massively exaggerates bias and destroys any sense of normal human communication that is left. Five or ten people who feel strongly about something can make it seem like 500 feel the same way, even though no one else even cared enough to type a single word.

This is what the internet is in 2025, and what it was not 20+ years ago.

People 20 years ago thought that the "You'd say that while hiding behind the keyboard, but wouldn't say it to someones face." aspect of the internet was bad enough. They had no idea that some day there would be websites where someone's genuine, honest thoughts or insights could be put out there for the world to see while a thousand people spent 1-2 seconds each determining that said post was worthless\wrong because of the ever growing number of downvotes next to it. It's the equivalent of a mob of hundreds\thousands of completely clueless people screaming obscenities at you\me as they run by your home even though they have no idea who we are and haven't even read what we have to say.

Whew... haven't had a good "I'm old and the world is getting worse." rant in at least a couple days. Thanks for reading. Please don't downvote me to oblivion... oh wait. 😋

Yeah, all is cool. I just wanted to continue the same idea you started - because of no "kudos-system" one must make a post. And that because of no "kudos-system", all other people get notified in a way when someone just shows appreciation. (I expect clicking "thumbs up" on a post using kudos-system not making the thread unread in "your posts" or "new posts" lists)

(Reddit and other such places have up and down votes. It's completely different system compared to what i originally suggested. While at the surface they look similar, a positive-only system behaves completely differently)

I see, that's fair enough.

Personally, I am okay with them being this way because I don't find it a bother and I only check some threads from time to time. If there isn't much to read, it only takes a few seconds of my time. I feel like if someone is watching and waiting for new posts to pop up in absolutely any thread on the forums, they probably aren't doing anything super important (that is the case for me when I am doing that... 🤣). If there are so many content-less "I agree" posts that it is taking up a significant amount of your time or cell-data or something, then it may not be a bad idea to take a break from forums.

Having gone through chronic forum-addiction many years ago (35k+ posts on one board) when I had some health problems, I can say that it is almost always a good idea to just step away and check the forums later if you aren't researching or discussing something specific and the time could be spent elsewhere. That's the beautiful thing about them. The information and the thoughts are here to stay and they will always be chronological and will be waiting for you whenever you want to read about that topic. Forums are great and VOGONS is by far the best one I've ever been on. 🙂

One does not need to have forum-addiction to identify optimization paths. 😉

FYI, I tend to close ancient threads with bumps caused by "like" posts when I see them. Its offtopic and irrevelant. If you do this you better put more content in the post that continues the discussion assuming the thread isn't one from 1-2+yrs ago where the issue was resolved or op isnt still around etc etc

If you go around only "liking" posts I suggest you do the exact same thing in RL and see where that gets you.

If such a "feature" aka trash was added I recommend having the ability to turn it off or on in the forum itself per user so the user doesn't have to jump through hoops with browser addons to remove the idiocy.

That makes a good scenario to have a "like" feature because most of the time there is nothing to say extra. Posts should be meaningful and Vogons maintains that, a barrage of "Thanks" in comments makes no sense; additionally most wouldn't want or find a reason to continue explaining something on a thankful post (to classify as more content)

DosFreak wrote on 2025-04-05, 10:21:

If such a "feature" aka trash was added I recommend having the ability to turn it off or on in the forum itself per user so the user doesn't have to jump through hoops with browser addons to remove the idiocy.

... and now remembering the whole mess with mouse cursors on this forum... well...

the last forum I've been to with a like system was an apparent rwnj cornflakes box centered around a machismo franchise I haven't been to for 6+ years, you can guess where the likes/dislikes got allocated and they were taken so seriously there it's led to meltdowns after I click a - on some bigotry.

yeah no thanks!!!!

leileilol wrote on 2025-04-07, 10:13:

the last forum I've been to with a like system was an apparent rwnj cornflakes box centered around a machismo franchise I haven't been to for 6+ years, you can guess where the likes/dislikes got allocated and they were taken so seriously there it's led to meltdowns after I click a - on some bigotry.

yeah no thanks!!!!

You are opposing to an idea that nobody has ever suggested? Why? What value does such post provide?

For your reminder, my suggestion:

GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-01-14, 09:48:

+1 on tagging users.

Some time ago i also proposed a feature of "Kudos" or "Appreciation". A positive-only rating system for posts.
For example, i would thank every post in List of Currently Free Games when a game is posted there.

GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-04-05, 08:12:

...
(Reddit and other such places have up and down votes. It's completely different system compared to what i originally suggested. While at the surface they look similar, a positive-only system behaves completely differently)

This insane conversation is exactly why I want to block all communication/posts/replies from some users...

Like junkies should go get their adrenaline fix elsewhere.

I come here to participate in the discussion , not to affirm my or anyone elses sense of self satisfaction.

GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-04-05, 10:40:

DosFreak wrote on 2025-04-05, 10:21:

If such a "feature" aka trash was added I recommend having the ability to turn it off or on in the forum itself per user so the user doesn't have to jump through hoops with browser addons to remove the idiocy.

... and now remembering the whole mess with mouse cursors on this forum... well...

Yeah, I was using a browser plugin to change certain UI things for quite a while as we were told, tough luck, we know it is crappy but it is staying that way.

Check these issues with the font:
Il
(Which is upper case i and which is Lower case L ?)
0oO
(Which is is the zero and which are O's?)

Sans serif should never be an option on a forum, especially one that has part numbers posted regularly.

It is even worse when writing programs and I see code posted regularly. The only way to make sure it is correct is to copy/paste to a program where the font is set to a serif type font.

cyclone3d wrote on 2025-04-07, 21:30:

Yeah, I was using a browser plugin to change certain UI things for quite a while as we were told, tough luck, we know it is crap […]
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GigAHerZ wrote on 2025-04-05, 10:40:

DosFreak wrote on 2025-04-05, 10:21:

If such a "feature" aka trash was added I recommend having the ability to turn it off or on in the forum itself per user so the user doesn't have to jump through hoops with browser addons to remove the idiocy.

... and now remembering the whole mess with mouse cursors on this forum... well...

Yeah, I was using a browser plugin to change certain UI things for quite a while as we were told, tough luck, we know it is crappy but it is staying that way.

Check these issues with the font:
Il
(Which is upper case i and which is Lower case L ?)
0oO
(Which is is the zero and which are O's?)

Sans serif should never be an option on a forum, especially one that has part numbers posted regularly.

It is even worse when writing programs and I see code posted regularly. The only way to make sure it is correct is to copy/paste to a program where the font is set to a serif type font.

You know, I was just thinking yesterday about how the font was weird, particularly with numbers... 1234567890... why are some of them dangling down below the others?